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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 5327200" data-attributes="member: 56035">im not sure what germany is doing, probably alot of sticking heads in the sand and denial.  i know EU is way ahead of north america in terms of cutting carbon emissions.  the republicans outright deny it; no other right wing party acts like this in EU.we wont make it to a couple hundred years from now.  we have 2 threats at the present: nukes and climate catastrophe.  theres going to be climate migrations when the earth is 2 degrees above normal by 2030, and even more as we hit 3 degrees.  they told us to go no hotter than 1.5 degrees which is debatably too hot.we are a complex civilization.  they collapse.</blockquote>