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Comparison: Last, Best & Final to Pre-strike proposals
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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 1027648" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>I think you are missing my point. There is no reason you should begrudge the millions they made. Nor should anyone, least of all me, begrudge you the $.65 an hour raise you got that year or the raises you've gotten since. It is not about begrudging, or sympathy, or any moral or emotional issue. I am talking about economic numbers. The millions that those owners made came from the market. They did not impact UPS operating cost one iota. Your raise did and the ones you have gotten since, did. </p><p></p><p>I think you and others misunderstand what I am saying about management costs being cut through compensation draw backs and staff reductions. I am certainly not looking for sympathy. I am trying to get a point across to those who suggest we should cut out management staffing and pay in order to reduce costs enough to become more competitive on our pricing. The point I am trying to convey is that there is not much blood left in that stone. We will continue to squeeze it, I have no doubt. There is not much left there to save, and it always was a smaller portion of our costs than is the compensation to hourlies. Again, as it should be.</p><p></p><p>So far, UPS has found no way to control those rising costs. So it has done the only thing it can. Increase the push for production. That has been successful from a profitability stand point, but not from a competitive stand point. If the slide in market share continues at around 2%/ year, in 25 years UPS is out of the domestic small package market.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 1027648, member: 14596"] I think you are missing my point. There is no reason you should begrudge the millions they made. Nor should anyone, least of all me, begrudge you the $.65 an hour raise you got that year or the raises you've gotten since. It is not about begrudging, or sympathy, or any moral or emotional issue. I am talking about economic numbers. The millions that those owners made came from the market. They did not impact UPS operating cost one iota. Your raise did and the ones you have gotten since, did. I think you and others misunderstand what I am saying about management costs being cut through compensation draw backs and staff reductions. I am certainly not looking for sympathy. I am trying to get a point across to those who suggest we should cut out management staffing and pay in order to reduce costs enough to become more competitive on our pricing. The point I am trying to convey is that there is not much blood left in that stone. We will continue to squeeze it, I have no doubt. There is not much left there to save, and it always was a smaller portion of our costs than is the compensation to hourlies. Again, as it should be. So far, UPS has found no way to control those rising costs. So it has done the only thing it can. Increase the push for production. That has been successful from a profitability stand point, but not from a competitive stand point. If the slide in market share continues at around 2%/ year, in 25 years UPS is out of the domestic small package market. [/QUOTE]
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