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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 1729348" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>Actually it is Christian dogma that humans do get it both ways. In fact without that tenant, there is no redemption, no grace, no God. </p><p></p><p>So from a non-believers point of view, what you say seems logical and straight forward. From a Christian perspective (from Paul on), it is baseless and shallow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 1729348, member: 22662"] Actually it is Christian dogma that humans do get it both ways. In fact without that tenant, there is no redemption, no grace, no God. So from a non-believers point of view, what you say seems logical and straight forward. From a Christian perspective (from Paul on), it is baseless and shallow. [/QUOTE]
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