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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 669789" data-attributes="member: 4816"><p>Dusty,</p><p>You sound like a very "stand up" person --someone who I always enjoyed working with. So let me be clear --this is not a personal attack on you.</p><p>Some posters have suggested that I am singing the same old "management fear" song. Obviously they can believe what they want.</p><p>I am a retired UPSer for some time now --while I still own some UPS stock --I have smartly and greatly diversified over the past five years. I do not have a "Horse" in this race. I do have a great respect for all UPS people -Management and hourly ----I was part of both during my 36 years.</p><p>What is happening now --is truly major but I am not surprised that so many people are in denial.</p><p>First of all --do not confuse the reciever or consignee with the customer.</p><p>Sure the person way out on the rural route loves to see the friendly face of the UPS driver --I am one of those people now !! The "customer" who is paying the shipping bill wants huge discounts .</p><p>With Competition --like Fedx --non union being much able to control their cost ---they can still make a healthy profit and give huge discounts.</p><p>This can get complicated --but it comes down to two simple numbers ---cost per piece---and-- Revenue per piece.</p><p>Ups has reached a point of no return ----much of this discounted volume is driving overtime,grievances,feeders, drivers, miles , benefits --that will never be covered by the present revenue per piece.</p><p>Yes ---cutting top management will reduce some cost ----but it does not compare with the high cost --mainly unhappy unionized workforce.</p><p>Many feel they are overworked --the partimers under paid --file grievances like falling rain--fight against sales leads "not my job" --Have the attitude the UNION will save them -----By the way I am tired of being accused of bashing the union ---Just open your eyes --you know what is going on.</p><p>I feel the bridge has been crossed --If you believe that management will cut their very top people and life will go on the same merry way ---there is nothing more to be said.</p><p>It is sad --this is purely simple math ----I have no desire to hammer ups mgmt nor the people or union.</p><p>I would hope that many ,many things will change for the better ----but being a "realist" I doubt it.</p><p>Again -Sorry for posting what I believe is Obvious ---did not mean to offend anyone ----I truly hope I am very,very, wrong ---The very near future will tell !!!!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 669789, member: 4816"] Dusty, You sound like a very "stand up" person --someone who I always enjoyed working with. So let me be clear --this is not a personal attack on you. Some posters have suggested that I am singing the same old "management fear" song. Obviously they can believe what they want. I am a retired UPSer for some time now --while I still own some UPS stock --I have smartly and greatly diversified over the past five years. I do not have a "Horse" in this race. I do have a great respect for all UPS people -Management and hourly ----I was part of both during my 36 years. What is happening now --is truly major but I am not surprised that so many people are in denial. First of all --do not confuse the reciever or consignee with the customer. Sure the person way out on the rural route loves to see the friendly face of the UPS driver --I am one of those people now !! The "customer" who is paying the shipping bill wants huge discounts . With Competition --like Fedx --non union being much able to control their cost ---they can still make a healthy profit and give huge discounts. This can get complicated --but it comes down to two simple numbers ---cost per piece---and-- Revenue per piece. Ups has reached a point of no return ----much of this discounted volume is driving overtime,grievances,feeders, drivers, miles , benefits --that will never be covered by the present revenue per piece. Yes ---cutting top management will reduce some cost ----but it does not compare with the high cost --mainly unhappy unionized workforce. Many feel they are overworked --the partimers under paid --file grievances like falling rain--fight against sales leads "not my job" --Have the attitude the UNION will save them -----By the way I am tired of being accused of bashing the union ---Just open your eyes --you know what is going on. I feel the bridge has been crossed --If you believe that management will cut their very top people and life will go on the same merry way ---there is nothing more to be said. It is sad --this is purely simple math ----I have no desire to hammer ups mgmt nor the people or union. I would hope that many ,many things will change for the better ----but being a "realist" I doubt it. Again -Sorry for posting what I believe is Obvious ---did not mean to offend anyone ----I truly hope I am very,very, wrong ---The very near future will tell !!!!:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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