Contract proposals for 2018

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BigUnionGuy, Feb 17, 2017 at 6:05 AM.

  1. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Let's see, what the "hive" at the BrownCafe has to say.


    Be realistic.

    Don't be stupid.

    It's an honest question, and I would like honest answers.


    I'll start:


    1) Maintain H&W.... and improvements.

    2) Maintain our pension.... and improvements

    (including a cost of living increase for retirees)

    3) Eliminate 17-I from the Central Region supplement


    It's your turn.

    Go.



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  2. Bastiatian

    Bastiatian Well-Known Member

    This.

    And...

    a) A raise for PTers from $10.00/hr to $15.00/hr.

    b) More Art 22.3 positions.
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I thought you said to be realistic. I see nothing but more concessions. Maybe an improvement in starting PT wages at the price of a pay freeze or greatly reduced pay increases.
     
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    #2 no way


    Our pension are already struggling
     
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Get positive.

    What concessions ?

    What pension plan, are you in ?
     
  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Mostly status quo. Raises that keep up with inflation ect.


    On top of this though.


    Do away with part time progression. If progression increases are less than general wage increases I don't see the point.

    Get full time progression under control. Four years is a long time to wait but the bigger problem I have is the raises. The last raise should be no more than $5.

    Finally 9.5. Simplicity would work best here. You opt out of the list not onto it. Also go back to any 3 out of 5.
     
  7. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Come on....



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  8. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    If we give them Saturday ground, which by all accounts we already have. We need something in return. If we don't get at least one or two major concessions from that, it's a loss IMO
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    688 has its own. It's not in bad shape.


    What I meant many nationwide are. Pension have shown that they weren't really built to pay people 30+ years into retirement. I just don't feel is fiscally smart to throw increases on top of an already strained system.
     
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Seriously why does the last progression raise need to be $10+?


    We've agreed to stretch progression out a ton over the last few contracts. The least we can do is get them better raises within that progression.

    My buddy is a lineman apprentice right now. He gets $2 an hour raise every 6 months.
     
  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Depending on your supplement, alternative work schedules, have been in place for years.



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  12. oldupsman

    oldupsman Well-Known Member

    The Sat. thing could really become a big issue if UPS goes into it full speed ahead. A serious discussion
    about "forced" 6th day, premium pay for a 6th day and bidding procedures. And you already know
    how I feel about pay progression.
     
  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The snowflake generation, doesn't want to do physical labor.

    Hence.... the need for automated Hubs.



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  14. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That literally has nothing to do with what I said.
     
  15. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    And he shows up for work everyday.
     
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Surepost is also something we haven't heard much about lately.


    I want hard line drawn on "close proximity"


    Is it 1/4 mile? 1/10 mile? 100 yards?
     
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  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Back to topic.

    :biggrin:
     
  18. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    "Other serious offenses". Come on. Everything to them is a "serious offense". Get rid of that, get rid of a lot of bs discharges....
     
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  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The language was modified, in the last contract.

    I say.... eliminate it completely.


    Innocent, until proven guilty.



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  20. dudebro

    dudebro Active Member

    The mechanism to monitor that would be complex to manage.