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<blockquote data-quote="beentheredonethat" data-source="post: 1017893" data-attributes="member: 4886"><p>How do you propose doing this? (Other then the obvious, let's organize FDX). If that is the solution, this is the same thing as the Big 3 all employed UAW and paid the same wages. That isn't a solution that is good for all. (ALthough, for a while, the teamsters will do well). </p><p>UPS is competing against a company that has more flexibility with it's work force, and pays them vastly less money then a UPS driver makes. </p><p></p><p>Here's some of my opinions of what is needed to help UPS compete. </p><p></p><p>1. FDX is beating us in transit time. They use contract carriers to bring their trailers from hub to hub. If you look at their 1 day footprint compared to ours, and even more so their 2 day footprint compared to ours, they are much better then UPS is. We need flexibility to make this work done by mileage drivers\gypsy drivers whatever. We need to be able to move this work from hub to hub in a speed that matches FDX that is cost competitve. This wouldn't impact what we currently have for feeder drivers moving local sort to hub or hub to preload loads. But it would impact the longer distance hub to hub loads. To try to win back or keep this volume, UPS has resorted to giving 2DA and\or 3DS to customers at discounted ground rates to keep the customers pkg in our network. This is very costly to UPS.</p><p></p><p>2. For many years now, UPS has had management pay a portion of their HW costs. Most all companies have done the same. It is not realistic anymore for a person to not to expect to pay a portion of their HW costs.</p><p></p><p>3. Two tier pay rates. This will allow long term drivers to keep their pay rate that they are accustomed to, while giving jobs to new hires at still a very competitive rate that they will be happy with.</p><p></p><p>4. Allow helpers year round. There are some areas where helpers can easily be used to make deliveries. Mall routes alone represent good areas where a helper could assist the driver to finish his\her day earlier or to do the mall and then cover another portion of a route with the time savings. In many areas, helpers year round wouldn't make financial sense and wouldn't be used. But in some areas it would be very beneficial. </p><p></p><p>5. Have a profit sharing with union members. I agree that profit should be shared. The harder a person works, the more the company makes and a portion of the profit can be given to the teamsters. This would give a good incentive for people to do their best and want the company to make more profit. It would make drivers want to do more sales leads to win new business since that will help them in the end. </p><p></p><p>6. Reduce some of the union rules. (In my area, we have multiple locals covered under the same district). We can't have a feeder driver from one local take a load from the hub to the end customer since that's delivery work that belongs to the other local. Therefore we need to spend time doing a drop\swap so the correct local can deliver the work. (Similar for pickups). We have some drivers moving an empty trailer past a customer that we have to send another driver to do a pickup in since the first driver was not in that local. </p><p>Granted, short term, this gives another job to a teamster. But it makes absolutely zero sense economically. We can't afford to be inefficient due to these type of union rules. We know FDX wouldn't have that issue. </p><p></p><p>There are more, but it's late. Let the flaming start, I'm sure the majority won't like what I posted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beentheredonethat, post: 1017893, member: 4886"] How do you propose doing this? (Other then the obvious, let's organize FDX). If that is the solution, this is the same thing as the Big 3 all employed UAW and paid the same wages. That isn't a solution that is good for all. (ALthough, for a while, the teamsters will do well). UPS is competing against a company that has more flexibility with it's work force, and pays them vastly less money then a UPS driver makes. Here's some of my opinions of what is needed to help UPS compete. 1. FDX is beating us in transit time. They use contract carriers to bring their trailers from hub to hub. If you look at their 1 day footprint compared to ours, and even more so their 2 day footprint compared to ours, they are much better then UPS is. We need flexibility to make this work done by mileage drivers\gypsy drivers whatever. We need to be able to move this work from hub to hub in a speed that matches FDX that is cost competitve. This wouldn't impact what we currently have for feeder drivers moving local sort to hub or hub to preload loads. But it would impact the longer distance hub to hub loads. To try to win back or keep this volume, UPS has resorted to giving 2DA and\or 3DS to customers at discounted ground rates to keep the customers pkg in our network. This is very costly to UPS. 2. For many years now, UPS has had management pay a portion of their HW costs. Most all companies have done the same. It is not realistic anymore for a person to not to expect to pay a portion of their HW costs. 3. Two tier pay rates. This will allow long term drivers to keep their pay rate that they are accustomed to, while giving jobs to new hires at still a very competitive rate that they will be happy with. 4. Allow helpers year round. There are some areas where helpers can easily be used to make deliveries. Mall routes alone represent good areas where a helper could assist the driver to finish his\her day earlier or to do the mall and then cover another portion of a route with the time savings. In many areas, helpers year round wouldn't make financial sense and wouldn't be used. But in some areas it would be very beneficial. 5. Have a profit sharing with union members. I agree that profit should be shared. The harder a person works, the more the company makes and a portion of the profit can be given to the teamsters. This would give a good incentive for people to do their best and want the company to make more profit. It would make drivers want to do more sales leads to win new business since that will help them in the end. 6. Reduce some of the union rules. (In my area, we have multiple locals covered under the same district). We can't have a feeder driver from one local take a load from the hub to the end customer since that's delivery work that belongs to the other local. Therefore we need to spend time doing a drop\swap so the correct local can deliver the work. (Similar for pickups). We have some drivers moving an empty trailer past a customer that we have to send another driver to do a pickup in since the first driver was not in that local. Granted, short term, this gives another job to a teamster. But it makes absolutely zero sense economically. We can't afford to be inefficient due to these type of union rules. We know FDX wouldn't have that issue. There are more, but it's late. Let the flaming start, I'm sure the majority won't like what I posted. [/QUOTE]
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