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<blockquote data-quote="Atomic_Smurf" data-source="post: 1110847" data-attributes="member: 46684"><p>I'd say you are on the new plan with a PPO or HMO, whatever you choose at the time. The $27k threshold has changed from $21k at it's passage. Teamsters & other unions lobbied hard to get that amount raised & they didn't do it to protect CEOs. By raising that threshold it merely lengthened the amount of time we have before those taxes are levied but believe me, UPS will never allow themselves to get close to the threshold for family plans where they have to pay a 40% tax, especially since they are already going to be taking it on the chin for the individual plans. That means downgrade after downgrade to keep everyone out of the "Cadillac" bracket. But again this is just 1 of the 21 new Obamacare taxes that are penalizing employers & workers. As far as what UPS pays vs. value of benefits...I've always understood that UPS was self insured but my insurance card says Aetna & BCBS so I'm not sure how that works. If UPS can place any value on a plan, they would only benefit by understating those numbers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atomic_Smurf, post: 1110847, member: 46684"] I'd say you are on the new plan with a PPO or HMO, whatever you choose at the time. The $27k threshold has changed from $21k at it's passage. Teamsters & other unions lobbied hard to get that amount raised & they didn't do it to protect CEOs. By raising that threshold it merely lengthened the amount of time we have before those taxes are levied but believe me, UPS will never allow themselves to get close to the threshold for family plans where they have to pay a 40% tax, especially since they are already going to be taking it on the chin for the individual plans. That means downgrade after downgrade to keep everyone out of the "Cadillac" bracket. But again this is just 1 of the 21 new Obamacare taxes that are penalizing employers & workers. As far as what UPS pays vs. value of benefits...I've always understood that UPS was self insured but my insurance card says Aetna & BCBS so I'm not sure how that works. If UPS can place any value on a plan, they would only benefit by understating those numbers. [/QUOTE]
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