Could Amazon and Uber Finally Dethrone FedEx and UPS?

[upschuck]

What about the U-Hauls that UPS rents during Peak? I know that we put the placard on the side but are these vehicles required to have a DOT number displayed?

All states require them for interstate commerce, which we carry. For intrastate commerce, which could be done more easily know that Amazon is putting warehouses in about every state, they wouldn't need the numbers. That is how I read it.

 

[FedExRookie]

Why is Amazon seen as such a threat to UPS? When's the last time Amazon made a profit?

Do you know why amazon was able to fulfill all their orders this season, why they have their drone program in the works, why they haven't turned a profit?

Amazon is making tons of money, they keep investing any earnings into the company to expand become more efficient. If GAAP and IFRS allowed for R&D to be accounted for differently you would see different numbers from amazon. Amazon built a $20,000 in a $1,000,000 neighborhood. They are now upgrading it to increase its value, they will see the positive equity in a few years.

 

[bbsam]

What about the U-Hauls that UPS rents during Peak? I know that we put the placard on the side but are these vehicles required to have a DOT number displayed?

Yes they are. Another lesson learned by Fedex. Any defect found by a roadside inspection does not fall on the rental company but on the company renting the vehicle.

 

[FedExRookie]

a $20,000 house* I hate this new edit limit

 

[bbsam]

All states require them for interstate commerce, which we carry. For intrastate commerce, which could be done more easily know that Amazon is putting warehouses in about every state, they wouldn't need the numbers. That is how I read it.

I thought intrastate commerce had become relatively nonexistent. Amazon might ship something within a state, but if that item first came from out of state, that final intrastate transaction remains part of interstate commerce.

 

[upscat]

It is true...no DOT card needed to drive vehicle rated 10,000 lbs or below. Not considered a commercial vehicle, no DOT card needed.. I know what I am talking about. Here is the definition of a CMV from the FMSCA:

http://fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=383.5

FedEx may require the card to drive it, but not the government. UPS has protocols for driving without a card, for the small PCs Most are over 10,000 lbs now.

you've never seen personal vehicles used to deliver with DOT Placards? you dont think ups would go through the trouble if not required to do you? Not the UPS I know.

 

[upschuck]

you've never seen personal vehicles used to deliver with DOT Placards? you dont think ups would go through the trouble if not required to do you? Not the UPS I know.

As I said previously, UPS delivers interstate commerce which requires placard, but not a DOT card carrying driver(under said weight limit). BB correctly stated that interstate refers to the complete travels of said commerce, and not the partial route that we(or any other) carry it.

 

[oldngray]

some local couriers will stick placards on cars but they don't need DOT cards. A lot of those I see are old retired guys just driving around town to make a little extra money.

 

[upschuck]

some local couriers will stick placards on cars but they don't need DOT cards. A lot of those I see are old retired guys just driving around town to make a little extra money.

<=10000 lbs do not DOT cards....not considered CMV

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

you've never seen personal vehicles used to deliver with DOT Placards? you dont think ups would go through the trouble if not required to do you? Not the UPS I know.

I used to run off misleads in my personal car on my way home. Our new center manager has put a stop to this saying that I would have to put the placard on my car if I were to do this. So much for taking care of the customer.

 

[brownmonster]

I was mislead by a center manager once.

 

[cachsux]

Amazon bad mouths UPS.

Amazon founder has a "health scare" or as we like to call it, a warning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/01/04/amazon-bezos-kidney-stone-galapagos/4321823/

 

[upscat]

Amazon bad mouths UPS.

Amazon founder has a "health scare" or as we like to call it, a warning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/01/04/amazon-bezos-kidney-stone-galapagos/4321823/

Helicopter? No drones available to fly him home?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Put a magnetic UPS Vehicle sign on the side of my Ranger one day and ran some air stops.

 

[oldngray]

Put a magnetic UPS Vehicle sign on the side of my Ranger one day and ran some air stops.

and with a "Baby on Board" sign in the window?

 

[PT Car Washer]

and with a "Baby on Board" sign in the window?

No.

 

[bbsam]

Put a magnetic UPS Vehicle sign on the side of my Ranger one day and ran some air stops.

the union was cool with that?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Why not? I have been a union member for over 35 years. My father is a retired Teamster. Was doing air exception work at the time and had no other vehicles to drive.

 

[oldngray]

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/amazon-delivers-biggest-box-nissan-inside-222814289.html

That could have fit in a package car!

 

[brett636]

Uber has come under fire from taxi companies in major cities for basically undercutting their prices and taking some of their business.

That is the free market at work. Reducing cost and increasing efficiency. You either adapt or die.