Court knows threat better than President

[Catatonic]

I expected the result but I can't believe the 9th District court issued a statement that essentially says the court knows the real threat assessment versus the President that gets briefed by the Intelligence departments.
This was unnecessary and extremely overreaching in it's scope.
This faux pas by the Court opens up their entire ruling to questioning by another court or the SCOTUS.
Look for AG to combine all cases filed against the EO and file in a court within a judicial district that is not so political.

 

[Returntosender]

Come on now it's all political.


Same thing happens at UPS/Teamsters arbitration hearings. The company wants the arbitrator who favored their case in the past.

 

[oldngray]

I expected the result but I can't believe the 9th District court issued a statement that essentially says the court knows the real threat assessment versus the President that gets briefed by the Intelligence departments.
This was unnecessary and extremely overreaching in it's scope.
This faux pas by the Court opens up their entire ruling to questioning by another court or the SCOTUS.
Look for AG to combine all cases filed against the EO and file in a court within a judicial district that is not so political.

The 9th has more decisions overturned than any other Appellate court.

The EO was only a 90 day hold so by the time it could get to the Supreme Court will be mostly meaningless except to clarify Executive powers.

 

[Catatonic]

Come on now it's all political.


Same thing happens at UPS/Teamsters arbitration hearings. The company wants the arbitrator who favored their case in the past.

"so" political ... just saying
I expect more of the courts ... they are not elected.

 

[Turdferguson]

I expected the result but I can't believe the 9th District court issued a statement that essentially says the court knows the real threat assessment versus the President that gets briefed by the Intelligence departments.
This was unnecessary and extremely overreaching in it's scope.
This faux pas by the Court opens up their entire ruling to questioning by another court or the SCOTUS.
Look for AG to combine all cases filed against the EO and file in a court within a judicial district that is not so political.

Do you really think it is political, or do you think it may have to do with an executive branch that has been trying to seize more and more power since the 70's and the judicial branch pushing back since the legislative branch has been giving more and more power to the executive

 

[MrFedEx]

Do you really think it is political, or do you think it may have to do with an executive branch that has been trying to seize more and more power since the 70's and the judicial branch pushing back since the legislative branch has been giving more and more power to the executive

It's nice to see the judicial branch let Trump know he isn't a dictator...Yet. Eff you, Trumpski.

 

[Catatonic]

Do you really think it is political, or do you think it may have to do with an executive branch that has been trying to seize more and more power since the 70's and the judicial branch pushing back since the legislative branch has been giving more and more power to the executive

It's always political.
The Executive branch has been "reaching" for power since LBJ because the Legislative branch has been quagmired in politics and unable to push through laws to address issues.

 

[BrownArmy]

The government didn't make much of a case.

 

[MrFedEx]

The government didn't make much of a case.

Trump had said he was going to ban Muslims during the campaign, as in ALL Muslims. In other words, he shot himself in the foot, which is normal for him.

 

[bbsam]

Maybe in the court's eyes, the president poses more of a threat than a terrorist strike.

 

[MrFedEx]

Maybe in the court's eyes, the president poses more of a threat than a terrorist strike.

How true. You're probably right.

 

[It will be fine]

The 9th has more decisions overturned than any other Appellate court.

The EO was only a 90 day hold so by the time it could get to the Supreme Court will be mostly meaningless except to clarify Executive powers.

Conservatives should be happy when the executive has his power checked. Slow deliberate government with the three branches in conflict, just like the founders intended.

 

[Catatonic]

The government didn't make much of a case.

They shouldn't have to in many Constitutional scholars' minds.

I thought it was precious that the Court suggested the President should make Classified information to the 9th District Court to make the government's case. Ha- ha ... that would be like handing over the Classified info to Wikileaks.

 

[Catatonic]

Maybe in the court's eyes, the president poses more of a threat than a terrorist strike.

Obviously they do ... not that the court's opinion is within their purview or relevant.

 

[Catatonic]

The 9th has more decisions overturned than any other Appellate court.

The EO was only a 90 day hold so by the time it could get to the Supreme Court will be mostly meaningless except to clarify Executive powers.

Unless ...

Look for AG to combine all cases filed against the EO and file in a court within a judicial district that is not so political.

 

[BrownArmy]

They shouldn't have to in many Constitutional scholars' minds.

I thought it was precious that the Court suggested the President should make Classified information to the 9th District Court to make the government's case. Ha- ha ... that would be like handing over the Classified info to Wikileaks.

The government lawyers' argument was that anything related to national security is 'unreviewable' by the judiciary.

Clearly that isn't the case, nor should it be now, or ever.

And, let's be clear - the ban stands for anyone who hasn't visited the US previously, or held a VISA.

So, partial win for the executive branch.

 

[Non sequitur]

All I know is that the next terrorist attack is on them. Maybe we can have a Sharia law judge judge the 9th District.

 

[Catatonic]

The government lawyers' argument was that anything related to national security is 'unreviewable' by the judiciary.

Clearly that isn't the case, nor should it be now, or ever.

And, let's be clear - the ban stands for anyone who hasn't visited the US previously, or held a VISA.

So, partial win for the executive branch.

I personally don't understand why Trump doesn't simply issue a new order that complies with the Court's specific objections.

This may all be, at this point, another Trump misdirection to throw the Press off on another tangent.
This is all that is all that is on News Networks right now.

 

[It will be fine]

All I know is that the next terrorist attack is on them. Maybe we can have a Sharia law judge judge the 9th District.

And if the next terror attack is another current American citizen that becomes radicalized due to policies like this ban, who's that on? Most terrorists that attack here are home grown now, it's easier for Isis to turn someone than to import one.

 

[BrownArmy]

And if the next terror attack is another current American citizen that becomes radicalized due to policies like this ban, who's that on? Most terrorists that attack here are home grown now, it's easier for Isis to turn someone than to import one.

Too soon to bring up the fact that most 'terrorist' attacks in the US lately are white-nationalists?

White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11

Exciting The Right Wing, Trump Downplays Threat Of Right-Wing Terror
http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/