Cover guys

UPSGUY72

Well-Known Member
The best thing about being a cover driver is that they have lower expectation out of you. IF your over oh well chalk it up to not being on the route everyday.
 

barnyard

KTM rider
There are at least 4 routes that I cover where folks that I deliver to, know me by name and wave and all that. Top guy can cover a couple of routes, 6 or 7 weeks a year.
 

DS

Fenderbender
I have nothing but the utmost respect for cover drivers.I've been on the same run 23 years and have days that I have to come back later to do resi's that are "right there".I don't like it but grin and bear it.My lunch is sacred.I get all the business out of the way,regardless of trace and stop for an hour every day and eat/chill out.
There have been a few days that I did other routes or splits,and I hate being lost.
UPS just opened up out east here in Canada and I went there to help out for a week.
Scary stuff,St John Nfld...right downtown totally lost except for my map book.
I propose a toast to swing drivers everywhere!!!:clap:
 

Kylew

Member
I prefer to stay cover!We send out about 42-48 routes a day know about 30 so im set until one of the good routes comes available even though they are becoming few and far between thanks to IE!
 

16tons

Active Member
Loved being a "swing driver" till guys with less seniority would cry because they didn't know routes. Since I knew 35 of 40 I'd get bounced around every day. So I bid a training rte (mall) and laugh all winter when they go out blind in a foot of snow, I'm in the mall waiting for the thaw and swing for the summer. Best of both worlds!
 

DS

Fenderbender
But wait. How did you understand the newfies??????
I would have thought that would have been the hardest part.
eh.

OK you asked...ha ha...
This discussion happened at a big "Michaels" store.
Me ~Hi,I have a pkg for you .
Reciever~ya know by' yer da turd ups goy ta show up inna lass dirty foi minits.
Me~I'm not surprised, they are just starting up here and they're still disorganized.

​I won't forget that ever.
 
I would much rather bid on a crappy route than never know what to expect. At least you know where you're going and you don't have to guess at delivery points. Moreover, the people on a crappy route will get to know and like you as long as you're nice to them. As a cover driver, the customers don't know you and treat you differently than if you were their regular driver.
 

sortaisle

Livin the cardboard dream
Being a cover driver sucks for the first 4 or 5 years where I'm at. It's when you finally get some seniority and can pick which route you'll cover that it's not so bad. That being said, I'd rather know what I'm up against everyday so I can plan a life...or lack thereof.
 

AKCoverMan

Well-Known Member
I am the senior cover in a center where we put out about 35-38 routes a day from the building and another five from a "satellite" (a vacant lot next to a transmission center where we pay to park our package cars at night"). I know about 30ish of these well enough to get them done and have a good number of routes that I probably know nearly as well as the bid driver.

I have passed on a number of bids as I enjoy the variety..heavy city route one week and miles and miles of rural Alaska in a 4x4 the next. I once covered a city route in a warehouse district.. lots of bulk but lots of easy back up to the dock and hand packages to waiting hands stops.. for about six weeks straigt. I like this route and cover it a lot, it is held by our steward and he is pretty senior so between vacations and union time he is gone quite a bit and I enjoy covering it.. but after six weeks I was so anxious to do something else!

I average about 52-55 hours a week. I really want to keep it around 50 but it is what it is.. hey I'm getting paid! I am not a "runner". I do my best to get all the work done safely, make service, and get done as early as I can so I can go home.

In our center cover drivers are full time seniority drivers who just have not bid (or won a bid) on a route. I am guaranteed work everyday based on my seniority. We do not however get to bid on open routes, we are assigned by route knowledge. Obviously when you cover five routes in five days or get sent to help others after running a route close to scratch your over allowed is not on average what you would call "good". But oh, well. I get it done.
 

TooTechie

Geek in Brown
In our center cover drivers are full time seniority drivers who just have not bid (or won a bid) on a route. I am guaranteed work everyday based on my seniority. We do not however get to bid on open routes, we are assigned by route knowledge.

If you're a permanent full time driver who has made seniority why on earth would you not be allowed to bid on a route? If that were the case how would you ever get a route?
 

AKCoverMan

Well-Known Member
If you're a permanent full time driver who has made seniority why on earth would you not be allowed to bid on a route? If that were the case how would you ever get a route?

Sorry if I was unclear. I can bid on a route that is posted for a permanent bid. I choose not to.

But in some centers the full time cover drivers bid every week on the routes that are known vacant the next week due to vacations. The covers can bid to be assinged to one of these routes. If he/she does not bid or is not succsessful in bidding, then he/she is on the bench or extra board and will be assigned by management to cover a route vacated by a call in or to a split car that does not have a bid driver.

In our center, the covers do not bid on the open routes each week we are just assigned at will by management. The only thing they have to worry about seniority wise it that they don't send a cover out with less seniority than someone on the bench unless the senior driver wants the day off.

 

TooTechie

Geek in Brown
only thing they have to worry about seniority wise it that they don't send a cover out with less seniority than someone on the bench unless the senior driver wants the day off.


Gotcha. When you say on the bench do you mean involuntarily laid off for the day?
 

AKCoverMan

Well-Known Member
Gotcha. When you say on the bench do you mean involuntarily laid off for the day?

Yes, drivers with no route. Some days you arrive at the center on the bench but end up with a route by PCM time.

Sometimes the last few drivers in seniority will be listed as "call" on the start time sheet. Usually they just show up anyway and usually work (someone always wants the day off) but by not giving them a start time the company is not obligated to work them. I am far enough up that I am never listed as "call" so if they send me home it has to be by mutual agreement.

At 0845 I am almost always agreeable to going home. :)

 

kingOFchester

Well-Known Member
in 1989 I was put on a training rte with 200 stops, a map, a flashlight, and told if I hit something,mis delivered something, missed a pick up, or stuffed a package, I would be fired !! That was my training!! Good times though, I could back up as much as I needed, never closed the front door an buckled up only on the main roads !!

You were lucky, map flashlight was not provided to me. I was told on day 1, get a map. Flashlight was something I figured out that I needed to buy on day 2.
 

UPSGUY72

Well-Known Member
Me too. 1 of the best parts of being high up on the cover list.

Today I did a route that I have not done in 6 or 7 years. Decided to do it pretty close to 100% trace. What a cluster.

trace what the hell is trace... If I followed trace on some routes I cover I be out there 2 days...
 

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I have nothing but the utmost respect for cover drivers.I've been on the same run 23 years and have days that I have to come back later to do resi's that are "right there".I don't like it but grin and bear it.My lunch is sacred.I get all the business out of the way,regardless of trace and stop for an hour every day and eat/chill out.
There have been a few days that I did other routes or splits,and I hate being lost.
UPS just opened up out east here in Canada and I went there to help out for a week.
Scary stuff,St John Nfld...right downtown totally lost except for my map book.
I propose a toast to swing drivers everywhere!!!:clap:

But wait. How did you understand the newfies??????

I would have thought that would have been the hardest part.

eh.

OK you asked...ha ha...
This discussion happened at a big "Michaels" store."
Me ~Hi,I have a pkg for you .
Reciever~ya know by' (are you the by' who sails her?) yer da turd ups goy ta show up inna lass dirty foi minits.
Me~I'm not surprised, they are just starting up here and they're still disorganized.

​I won't forget that ever.


There has been a store to ship out UPS in St Johns for a long while. I know this as my wife has some family up there. Spot on with the accent. I am still laughing.
 

brown bomber

brown bomber
You guys would S#%T your britches, if you could have witnessed some of the routes (split routes), that I delivered.....back in the mid -1980's...I had routes, that delivered in 4 counties.....I had routes, where the pkgs. were loaded on 4 piles on the floor of the pkg. car/ by city or area ( if you had a good loader)..it wasn't to bad...when Mgt. started to invent split-cars, that were impossible...I finally bid a route....management, had much more flexibility 25-30 yrs. ago
 
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