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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4927351" data-attributes="member: 63706">You can make that argument, since c-19 was made in a lab. I think we are all lab rats to some degree. We all generate data that is then used, mostly, to better inform the attempts to control our behavior. All that aside, there really is no good counter-argument to the lack of long term safety data. It makes me wonder why more affluent, &quot;better educated&quot; people are less likely to understand that simple fact. Maybe they should listen to grandpa more. Imagine how easy it was getting people to disregard basic safety considerations in the hopes of saving mostly people who were likely to die soon anyway. It&#039;s nonsensical.As for the VAERS info, the only argument anyone can make is that correlation does not equal causation (curious that they know that now, but forgot that over the whole last year+), but I am not seeing the results of investigations showing these things are absolutely unrelated from those who make that argument. The precautionary principal tells us we are better to assume a direct link until it is investigated thoroughly.Anyone who got the shot without a reasonable compensation for being part of an ongoing safety study clearly wasn&#039;t using their well-nourished, well-educated brain to make that decision.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4927351, member: 63706"] You can make that argument, since c-19 was made in a lab. I think we are all lab rats to some degree. We all generate data that is then used, mostly, to better inform the attempts to control our behavior. All that aside, there really is no good counter-argument to the lack of long term safety data. It makes me wonder why more affluent, "better educated" people are less likely to understand that simple fact. Maybe they should listen to grandpa more. Imagine how easy it was getting people to disregard basic safety considerations in the hopes of saving mostly people who were likely to die soon anyway. It's nonsensical. As for the VAERS info, the only argument anyone can make is that correlation does not equal causation (curious that they know that now, but forgot that over the whole last year+), but I am not seeing the results of investigations showing these things are absolutely unrelated from those who make that argument. The precautionary principal tells us we are better to assume a direct link until it is investigated thoroughly. Anyone who got the shot without a reasonable compensation for being part of an ongoing safety study clearly wasn't using their well-nourished, well-educated brain to make that decision. [/QUOTE]

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