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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4930466" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>Where does it say verified or not? It says they should report whether they have reason to believe it was caused by the vaccine or not. And the reactions that can only be determined by a subjective accounting of the patient usually aren't the type of reaction that causes concern about the vaccine, unless they are more than just transient, in which case they can run tests to determine a cause. My whole point is that, though VAERS reports don't necessarily prove anything about the safety of a vaccine, they also shouldn't be summarily dismissed on that basis. It's not just random cranks reporting nonsense in order to further some anti-vaxx conspiracy. But, according to some people's responses, it seems like that's  what they believe. I wonder where they would get such ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>