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<blockquote data-quote="Undertow" data-source="post: 3881040" data-attributes="member: 4550"><p>Based on what I've witnessed up to this point regarding what comes in off the street, No I don't believe the company can execute any supposed plan that way especially on a nationwide scale in a span of mere months. They can hardly get new hires to stick with it now and that's with something less than 8 hours of work with the promise of full scale pay way dow the road. 5 bucks less per hour with far less certainty regarding start and finish times taking most all chances of planning a life to go along with their work? The odds of getting any takers worth keeping get far worse.</p><p></p><p>I actually don't view the ORION comparison as apple to oranges as it's become clear that the failure of the program has greatly contributed in negating the effectiveness curve of new hires. Without any prior knowledge of the delivery areas, the rookies follow the botched list into not only 12 hour days that the vets can often get done in 9 or even 8 hours, but often miss a dozen or more business deliveries while in the process. And that's assuming the "driver" sticks around the whole day rather than calling his mom or one of his friends to come pick him up while leaving the truck and 100 stops left in it somewhere in a parking lot at 6PM. That used to take place perhaps once every couple of years where now it takes place about once per month.</p><p></p><p>Will the company try to move forward with the 22.4 concept? Of course they will as they wouldn't have structured the language of Hoffa's folly the way they did. Does that automatically translate into all of us from coast to coast suddenly being awoke by a phone call on Monday morning two weeks from now saying "No work available on your area today, either stay home or go out on something you haven't done in 17 years."? Again, I can only observe and reflect on what takes place at my building and a handful of others closest to it, and I don't see that possibility getting anywhere remotely close to the realm of probability anytime soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undertow, post: 3881040, member: 4550"] Based on what I've witnessed up to this point regarding what comes in off the street, No I don't believe the company can execute any supposed plan that way especially on a nationwide scale in a span of mere months. They can hardly get new hires to stick with it now and that's with something less than 8 hours of work with the promise of full scale pay way dow the road. 5 bucks less per hour with far less certainty regarding start and finish times taking most all chances of planning a life to go along with their work? The odds of getting any takers worth keeping get far worse. I actually don't view the ORION comparison as apple to oranges as it's become clear that the failure of the program has greatly contributed in negating the effectiveness curve of new hires. Without any prior knowledge of the delivery areas, the rookies follow the botched list into not only 12 hour days that the vets can often get done in 9 or even 8 hours, but often miss a dozen or more business deliveries while in the process. And that's assuming the "driver" sticks around the whole day rather than calling his mom or one of his friends to come pick him up while leaving the truck and 100 stops left in it somewhere in a parking lot at 6PM. That used to take place perhaps once every couple of years where now it takes place about once per month. Will the company try to move forward with the 22.4 concept? Of course they will as they wouldn't have structured the language of Hoffa's folly the way they did. Does that automatically translate into all of us from coast to coast suddenly being awoke by a phone call on Monday morning two weeks from now saying "No work available on your area today, either stay home or go out on something you haven't done in 17 years."? Again, I can only observe and reflect on what takes place at my building and a handful of others closest to it, and I don't see that possibility getting anywhere remotely close to the realm of probability anytime soon. [/QUOTE]
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