Current Contract - Occurrences?

[ThePackageDeli]

Where does the (6) occurrences in (9) months language actually reside in the current contract? I remember seeing it spelled out explicitly in previous contracts, but not the current one. If this is the case, does this mean you CANNOT be fired for occurrences anymore?

 

[silenze]

Good luck with that

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Where does the (6) occurrences in (9) months language actually reside in the current contract? I remember seeing it spelled out explicitly in previous contracts, but not the current one. If this is the case, does this mean you CANNOT be fired for occurrences anymore?

How hard is it to show up to work?

 

[542thruNthru]

Where does the (6) occurrences in (9) months language actually reside in the current contract? I remember seeing it spelled out explicitly in previous contracts, but not the current one. If this is the case, does this mean you CANNOT be fired for occurrences anymore?

I don't remember occurrences ever being spelled out in a contract.

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

They just gave some guys at my hub a warning for excessive call offs.

Considering how much they've stressed ... "if you dont feel good, then stay home!! ...... I don't see how they could enforce the 6 days in 9mos. they set. Sure, some guys might take advantage of the circumstances and call off just due to laziness but the company could never confirm it.

 

[PT Crazy]

Mostly depends on the supervisor! In our hub on the Twilight. We have employees that call out 6 times a month. The employees let everyone know they are there for the benefits only. Full time management is so busy chasing numbers....they don't care who shows up or not.

 

[Poop Head]

Where does the (6) occurrences in (9) months language actually reside in the current contract? I remember seeing it spelled out explicitly in previous contracts, but not the current one. If this is the case, does this mean you CANNOT be fired for occurrences anymore?

Its right after the part that spells out how things will be handled when amazon puts us out of buisiness

 

[hexmurph]

For the past year or so here. If you miss a day and dont have option days it is an automatic warning letter, NO excuse is accepted.

We've had people with documented hospital stays, serious car wrecks etc. Tough luck, here's your warning letter

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Where does the (6) occurrences in (9) months language actually reside in the current contract?

It doesn't.... never has.

I remember seeing it spelled out explicitly in previous contracts, but not the current one.

You might be remembering a company policy book, or something like that.

If this is the case, does this mean you CANNOT be fired for occurrences anymore?

Attendance is subject to progressive discipline.

I don't remember occurrences ever being spelled out in a contract.

There have been BrownCafe threads about "it should be spelled out in the contract".

You don't want that.


I've seen it in "white paper" contracts.... and it's contractually binding.

4 infractions = verbal warning

5 infractions = written warning

6 infractions = suspension

7 infractions = Hope you enjoy your new job.


Even with an arbitration clause in a contract.... doesn't mean the Union will spend the money to fight a losing case.

Reality 101.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It doesn't.... never has.





You might be remembering a company policy book, or something like that.





Attendance is subject to progressive discipline.





There have been BrownCafe threads about "it should be spelled out in the contract".

You don't want that.


I've seen it in "white paper" contracts.... and it's contractually binding.

4 infractions = verbal warning

5 infractions = written warning

6 infractions = suspension

7 infractions = Hope you enjoy your new job.


Even with an arbitration clause in a contract.... doesn't mean the Union will spend the money to fight a losing case.

Reality 101.



-Bug-

Some people need to learn that attendance is important. If you have some kind of medical issue, then sign up for FMLA.

We had a cry crying because he got a suspension for being late 9 times













In a month....

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Some people need to learn that attendance is important.

It's one of the basic tenets, of holding a job.

If you have some kind of medical issue, then sign up for FMLA.

If you are eligible, with a qualifying issue.... absolutely.

We had a cry crying because he got a suspension for being late 9 times

In a month....

Being late (or tardy) is one of the easiest things to fix.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's one of the basic tenets, of holding a job.





If you are eligible, with a qualifying issue.... absolutely.





Being late (or tardy) is one of the easiest things to fix.

Have mommy give you a wake up call every morning?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Have mommy give you a wake up call every morning?

I hope not.

It's all about being a responsible adult.


Give me that.... I have something to work with.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I hope not.

It's all about being a responsible adult.


Give me that.... I have something to work with.



-Bug-

Have you seen some of these new guys?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Have you seen some of these new guys?

It's not my place to judge a dues paying member, based on appearances.

When the company has requested Local Level hearings on members for "issues".... it is based on facts.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's not my place to judge a dues paying member, based on appearances.

When the company has requested Local Level hearings on members for "issues".... it is based on facts.



-Bug-

They don't seem to enforce the appearance guidelines on the newbies

 

[Netsua 3:16]

6th punches all year long. I get the old school “show up to work” mentality, but us younger guys are getting beat down. Peak all year. At some point this needs to stop or UPS won’t be able to keep good employees. Rules are rules, I get it, but I have no qualms with anybody sticking up for themselves and their bodies and staying home for a “forced” 6th punch. Nobody has our back on this. Nobody is fighting for us. Nothing is going to change.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

They don't seem to enforce the appearance guidelines on the newbies

The company has "relaxed" their position on appearance standards.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The company has "relaxed" their position on appearance standards.

Different times my friend.

 

[polyp]

It doesn't.... never has.





You might be remembering a company policy book, or something like that.





Attendance is subject to progressive discipline.





There have been BrownCafe threads about "it should be spelled out in the contract".

You don't want that.


I've seen it in "white paper" contracts.... and it's contractually binding.

4 infractions = verbal warning

5 infractions = written warning

6 infractions = suspension

7 infractions = Hope you enjoy your new job.


Even with an arbitration clause in a contract.... doesn't mean the Union will spend the money to fight a losing case.

Reality 101.



-Bug-

Any tips on how to actually get hands on a copy of the buildings' white paper contract? UPS Rising only seems to be as granular as local riders.