Dennis Taylor threatens to overrule no vote

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by opie, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. opie

    opie Active Member

  2. Boxslinger11

    Boxslinger11 Next gen teamster

    :beersmiley::beersmiley:
     
  3. Unbelievable











    Not really
     
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  4. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

  5. opie

    opie Active Member

    Would not look good for them if they impose it, when the majority voted no. They would get a ton of heat from the media and lawmakers. Plus the vote no locals may call their own strike.
     
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  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Nothing much happened last contract when the IBT imposed that agreement.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    First doesn't it also say for a pass/strike vote? Which this is not


    Second I imagine they'd be begging for labor charges out the ass.
     
  8. opie

    opie Active Member

    Yeah but that was the local agreements. National getting voted down and possibly forced is a much bigger story.
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You mean other than Hoffa losing the election in the USA?


    Forcing a couple supplements is different than forcing a national contract
     
  10. upsbeernut

    upsbeernut Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont

    Face it union sold us out
     
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  11. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Everyone should have seen this coming, it has been discussed several times
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    That's not how I read it???

    When in the judgment of the negotiating committee the involved employer has made a final offer of settle- ment, such negotiating committee shall have the author- ity, with the approval of the General Executive Board, to conduct agreement ratification votes and strike votes on such area, multi-area, multi-employer, national, compa- ny-wide, industry-wide, or Local Union basis as the committee shall determine, except that no such final offer shall be considered to be a contract offer subject to ratification by the membership until it has been reviewed by the Local Unions which are the bargaining represen- tatives of the involved members. In the event a strike is authorized, the said committee shall have the authority, with the approval of the General Executive Board, to direct that the strike be conducted on such area, multi- area, multi-employer, national, company-wide, industry- wide, Local Union, or such other selective basis as the committee shall determine. Results of ratification or rejection votes with respect to master agreements shall be determined by all involved voting members on a cumulative basis of all votes cast as follows:
    (1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in accept- ance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall author- ize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. A tie vote shall be resolved as provided in Section 1(b)(l) of this Article.
    (2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a strike. The failure of such membership to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as herein provided shall require the negotiating committee to accept such final offer or such additional provisions as can be negotiated by it.
     
  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yeah I've seen no talk of a final offer at all. Taylor pulling that out of his ass like the 22.4?
     
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  14. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

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  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    If this was forced it would be the best argument for a national right to work bill i have ever seen.

    It would be political suicide for anyone even lightly associated with Hoffa. It would forever tear the union into two factions and I would think would basically be like Hoffa screaming "hey come investigate me for collusion."
     
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  16. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Apathy
     
  17. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    No I did, long before you picked up on it.
     
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  18. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Talk about apathy I doubt future voting numbers would get over 10%. No reason to vote when you've been told your vote doesn't matter anyway.
     
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  19. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Actually I think you told us we had to strike if we voted no.
     
  20. DirtySouth

    DirtySouth Active Member

    I hate to agree but you're absolutely on the money. This would be bigger than the Teamsters. This would have enormous ramifications for the entire American labor movement.
     
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