Overpaid Union Thug
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If the current drivers that have area knowledge can barely make it work (or at all) how are a bunch of scabs going to fair? LOL!
Did ORION get rammed thru your building?
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If the current drivers that have area knowledge can barely make it work (or at all) how are a bunch of scabs going to fair? LOL!
TooTechie
Geek in Brown
Because it's a pain and dispatch managers don't want to take the time to do it. With Orion there are 2 different ways to put a time commit in for an address. Pre-Orion centers have to do it through CPAD which is a pain in the
supposedly.
The Blackadder
Are you not amused?
Because they are spending millions of dollars to convince investors that it save miles and gas, also that makes the global warming crowd happy.
What never gets mentioned, is the service failures, the extra pay for working more hours because we spend more time digging though the load.
Also many of the higher ups have no idea how bad it is, they are being told by the Orion guys it is wonderful, and the people in operations don't want to say boo because they don't want to be fired.
OPTION3
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Do what they TELL you to do.....NOT what they WANT you to do........you will make TONS of money
Overpaid Union Thug
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They know about the service failures. But until ORION affects their stops per car metric they will not address it.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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September 2015.
Resident know-it-all.
Resident know-it-all.
You work as instructed and still get asked why you are 20 miles over... Everyday!
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Because he really has nooooo idea what they are getting themselves into.
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joeboodog
good people drink good beer
Oh he knows. He just has to spout the party line while drinking the kool-aid
TheDick
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I'd rather not say. Just trying to get a idear if my "specials" are any diff than others that install ORION to other buildings.
and yes I agree that if UPS has put 100or300 million into ORION sofar, we are stuck with towing the line.
joeboodog
good people drink good beer
Most drivers in a non orion center haven't heard of it. I wouldn't know anything about it if it weren't for this forum.
Richard Harrow
Deplorable.
Had a great laugh tonight, thought I would share.
ORION has not gone live in my building yet, though the computers in the turn in area are on, they have the maps of areas showing and such. Out of curiosity I zoom in on my area - and there it is. A street that has not existed in 3 years is still showing on the screen, and the street next to it shows as one block when it's now two.
Brand new system, maps out of date. Sounds like it will be a winning strategy.
ORION has not gone live in my building yet, though the computers in the turn in area are on, they have the maps of areas showing and such. Out of curiosity I zoom in on my area - and there it is. A street that has not existed in 3 years is still showing on the screen, and the street next to it shows as one block when it's now two.
Brand new system, maps out of date. Sounds like it will be a winning strategy.
bellesmom
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Too bad there isn't a "not funny" button for this reply.
WorknLateHuh
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Here's the thing... Orion is supposed to be ideal for cover-drivers who don't know the route, right? to give the best "solution" and trace.
Well the problem is that with most routes here, Orion says that i can get 50 stops off before my first commit time of 12:00, which would be fine if the route wasn't an hour from the center and the driver had some idea of what door to enter, what dock to back to, and what crazy hoops the employees make the normal driver jump through.
So yeah, no big deal, just bang out 70 stops in 3 hours, complete with bulk stops and dirt roads that leave your load all over the floor no matter how slow you drive... no problem. Another thing is that Orion has you crossing the street for a stop twice as much as normal, yeah that's safe. Not to mention time for breaks and lunch.
I cover so many routes and barely any of it is realistic with the exception of a few, but even the 1's that make sense are set up identical to how the original EDD was set up lol.
The whole thing is just ridiculous with too many holes to count. Maybe it makes sense in your centers and maybe it will improve with the new updates to come idk.
Well the problem is that with most routes here, Orion says that i can get 50 stops off before my first commit time of 12:00, which would be fine if the route wasn't an hour from the center and the driver had some idea of what door to enter, what dock to back to, and what crazy hoops the employees make the normal driver jump through.
So yeah, no big deal, just bang out 70 stops in 3 hours, complete with bulk stops and dirt roads that leave your load all over the floor no matter how slow you drive... no problem. Another thing is that Orion has you crossing the street for a stop twice as much as normal, yeah that's safe. Not to mention time for breaks and lunch.
I cover so many routes and barely any of it is realistic with the exception of a few, but even the 1's that make sense are set up identical to how the original EDD was set up lol.
The whole thing is just ridiculous with too many holes to count. Maybe it makes sense in your centers and maybe it will improve with the new updates to come idk.
upsbeernut
Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont
100 mill down the drain . I'm getting close to using it and have heard all the horror stories and why would you make the job twice as hard . It has reduced the service level , increased missed packages, doubled the unsafe left turn, and will not work unless the daily plan is the same each day or if they give us a fair days work. I want the public to know driving across 4lanes of traffic to save a mile is putting stock and money before safety is wrong . This isn't the NFL where they turn their heads at the expense of a child.
upsbeernut
Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont
Well your one of the lucky ones if you like it . I can't make a judgment call , my route changes everyday which consistency I thought was one of foundations of ups. I am very disappointed and Casey is spinning in his grave . Like you said no driver input which means they dont trust our route knowledge, oh Are we on the same team? Does Orion have any purpose other than reducing mileage and keeping us out even longer than 8 pm. God theres no variables added, I would hate to be on the Orion team trying to cram it down a common sense driver.
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upsbeernut
Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont
Why not fix the preload , god why put Orion on top of problems that were never fixed