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Did partimers just royally just friend themselves ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nimnim" data-source="post: 3770619" data-attributes="member: 28856"><p>I raised the question about if PTers really outnumber FTers when it comes to voting because the transient nature of PT employees either doesn't allow them to vote, they don't plan on being around long enough to care to vote, and I'm not sure it was covered but they weren't informed enough to vote. <a href="https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/do-part-timers-really-outnumber-full-timers.378258/" target="_blank">https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/do-part-timers-really-outnumber-full-timers.378258/</a></p><p></p><p>While reading this thread I've seen comments about how new hires are really not trained at all and the lack of training with the crap pay and hours produces people who don't want to stick around.</p><p></p><p>I saw the Head Training Sup not long ago tell a new hire they haven't been to the mentoring sessions. The mentoring sessions are basically members of the "Safety" committee teaching the new hires the DoK. I told the Sup that didn't exist when I was a new hire over 10 years ago because the training sups back then, while not usually good at the job, knew how to do it and could at least tell a new hire in the unload not to throw and irreg down a ladder but put it on the slide next to the belt instead. Head Training Sup could only walk away.</p><p></p><p>They can't train the new PTers right, I don't think the local even has stewards visit the new hire classes anymore(RTW here in FL) as they'd have to convince them to join while there's almost no benefit for them unless they stay for years.</p><p></p><p>I can't see the spotlight on PTers not voting to have been that big of a difference if they all voted. How many of the PTers were actually eligible to vote vs the FTers? The turnout sucked, 45% was incredible compared to what I've seen past turnouts to be, but it still sucks. How much greater would the turnout have been if it removed people with less than 3 months with the company from the voting pool? Shouldn't take 3 months to be eligible after hire, but with the revolving door I'm sure there's quite a few who haven't shown up but have not actually quit or are intending to leave within a few months.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nimnim, post: 3770619, member: 28856"] I raised the question about if PTers really outnumber FTers when it comes to voting because the transient nature of PT employees either doesn't allow them to vote, they don't plan on being around long enough to care to vote, and I'm not sure it was covered but they weren't informed enough to vote. [URL]https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/do-part-timers-really-outnumber-full-timers.378258/[/URL] While reading this thread I've seen comments about how new hires are really not trained at all and the lack of training with the crap pay and hours produces people who don't want to stick around. I saw the Head Training Sup not long ago tell a new hire they haven't been to the mentoring sessions. The mentoring sessions are basically members of the "Safety" committee teaching the new hires the DoK. I told the Sup that didn't exist when I was a new hire over 10 years ago because the training sups back then, while not usually good at the job, knew how to do it and could at least tell a new hire in the unload not to throw and irreg down a ladder but put it on the slide next to the belt instead. Head Training Sup could only walk away. They can't train the new PTers right, I don't think the local even has stewards visit the new hire classes anymore(RTW here in FL) as they'd have to convince them to join while there's almost no benefit for them unless they stay for years. I can't see the spotlight on PTers not voting to have been that big of a difference if they all voted. How many of the PTers were actually eligible to vote vs the FTers? The turnout sucked, 45% was incredible compared to what I've seen past turnouts to be, but it still sucks. How much greater would the turnout have been if it removed people with less than 3 months with the company from the voting pool? Shouldn't take 3 months to be eligible after hire, but with the revolving door I'm sure there's quite a few who haven't shown up but have not actually quit or are intending to leave within a few months. [/QUOTE]
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