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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 315394" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>My Bad AV,</p><p></p><p>It was 82 not 116 republicans voting for HR-2 which was the initial effort to raise the minimum wage in Jan. 2007'. Just wanted to correct that for the record. Here's the vote breakdown and Ron Paul did vote against it.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll018.xml" target="_blank">http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll018.xml</a></p><p></p><p>HR-2 legislation passed by House in Jan. 07'</p><p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110EITjk8" target="_blank">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110EITjk8</a>::</p><p></p><p>The house passed the legislation but it got hung up in Congressional games via the Senate and in May of 07' was attached to HR-2206 after the democrats gave in to republican demands for tax cuts and other economic concessions. After Bush signed it became Public Law 110-28 and is cited in 121 STAT. 112. Here is that Pulic Law.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_public_laws&docid=friend:publ028.110" target="_blank">http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_public_laws&docid=friend:publ028.110</a></p><p></p><p>The rollcall vote on HR-2206 is as follows:</p><p><a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll425.xml" target="_blank">http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll425.xml</a></p><p></p><p>The breakdown on this was</p><p></p><p>Yeas Noes</p><p>Democrat 86 Democrat 140</p><p>Republican 194 Republicans 2</p><p></p><p>The 2 lone republicans who voted "NO" were Duncan of California and Paul of Texas. Paul also voted no on HR-2 which was consistant with his record.</p><p></p><p>Would seem the republicans took the minimum wage issue, along with Katrina and grafted it to Iraq appropriations as an all in one bill so that come political season 194 of them can claim they support the war for those voters and at the same time for the voters who like a minimum wage increase or even Katrina support, they can wrap their arms around that. Also embeded are more Bush tax cuts and small business tax incentives designed to soften the min. wage increase. In other words, they can play all sides of the fence. And don't frown because the democrats do this crap also so it goes both ways. It just happens on this piece of legislation that is kinda seems to go a bit one way. It also shows that having a majority in Congress doesn't mean you can, as the Mick Jagger would say, "You can't always get what you want!"</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p></p><p>It was also a smart strategic political manuvere on the part of the republicans becuase for those democrats that voted no because of Iraq war money or Bush Tax cuts, the republicans in effect not only have them on record on that but also have them on record as having voted against the min. wage increase. For the dems. who held their nose to support the min. wage, it has softened those democrats use of Iraq war, funding of Bush Tax cuts because they voted for them. How can you call out someone for doing something you did yourself?</p><p></p><p>Pretty smart ain't it!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>And the bill also was a "I'll scratch you if you scratch me" kinda legislation as well. I keep telling you guys to look under the surface as there is a whole other world living there that we all are just clueless about and I include me in that we! They hate it when we dare look.</p><p></p><p>If you happen to be interested in any of Paul's postiions (I know, why waste my typing but others may feel otherwise) you can find a lot of Paul's writtings and speeches here on the right side of the page under Articles by Ron Paul on LRC.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/#art2" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/#art2</a></p><p></p><p>Not exhaustive but it's a general idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 315394, member: 2189"] My Bad AV, It was 82 not 116 republicans voting for HR-2 which was the initial effort to raise the minimum wage in Jan. 2007'. Just wanted to correct that for the record. Here's the vote breakdown and Ron Paul did vote against it. [url]http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll018.xml[/url] HR-2 legislation passed by House in Jan. 07' [url]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110EITjk8[/url]:: The house passed the legislation but it got hung up in Congressional games via the Senate and in May of 07' was attached to HR-2206 after the democrats gave in to republican demands for tax cuts and other economic concessions. After Bush signed it became Public Law 110-28 and is cited in 121 STAT. 112. Here is that Pulic Law. [url]http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_public_laws&docid=friend:publ028.110[/url] The rollcall vote on HR-2206 is as follows: [url]http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll425.xml[/url] The breakdown on this was Yeas Noes Democrat 86 Democrat 140 Republican 194 Republicans 2 The 2 lone republicans who voted "NO" were Duncan of California and Paul of Texas. Paul also voted no on HR-2 which was consistant with his record. Would seem the republicans took the minimum wage issue, along with Katrina and grafted it to Iraq appropriations as an all in one bill so that come political season 194 of them can claim they support the war for those voters and at the same time for the voters who like a minimum wage increase or even Katrina support, they can wrap their arms around that. Also embeded are more Bush tax cuts and small business tax incentives designed to soften the min. wage increase. In other words, they can play all sides of the fence. And don't frown because the democrats do this crap also so it goes both ways. It just happens on this piece of legislation that is kinda seems to go a bit one way. It also shows that having a majority in Congress doesn't mean you can, as the Mick Jagger would say, "You can't always get what you want!" :happy-very: It was also a smart strategic political manuvere on the part of the republicans becuase for those democrats that voted no because of Iraq war money or Bush Tax cuts, the republicans in effect not only have them on record on that but also have them on record as having voted against the min. wage increase. For the dems. who held their nose to support the min. wage, it has softened those democrats use of Iraq war, funding of Bush Tax cuts because they voted for them. How can you call out someone for doing something you did yourself? Pretty smart ain't it! :wink2: And the bill also was a "I'll scratch you if you scratch me" kinda legislation as well. I keep telling you guys to look under the surface as there is a whole other world living there that we all are just clueless about and I include me in that we! They hate it when we dare look. If you happen to be interested in any of Paul's postiions (I know, why waste my typing but others may feel otherwise) you can find a lot of Paul's writtings and speeches here on the right side of the page under Articles by Ron Paul on LRC. [url]http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/#art2[/url] Not exhaustive but it's a general idea. [/QUOTE]
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