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<blockquote data-quote="JustTired" data-source="post: 435752" data-attributes="member: 10234"><p>Ok, here's my take........</p><p> </p><p>First, let me say that I've worked as a Teamster (UPS package) and as a UAW member (automotive). </p><p> </p><p>As a member of the UAW, I would have answered 'yes' to your question. That job left a 'bad taste' in my mouth for unions when I left it.</p><p> </p><p>Then I went to work for UPS. Totally different situation. You can not be lazy at UPS and get away with it. That being said...there are ways you can appear to be lazy. When you've got runners out there skipping lunch and breaks, speeding and otherwise taking unsafe shortcuts....they can make the driver who follows the rules appear to be underachieving (lazy?).</p><p> </p><p>Don't get me wrong. I've seen some drivers do some pretty boneheaded things and thought they deserved to lose their jobs. Yet they still kept them. What they did, for the most part, had nothing to do with being lazy. Just poor judgement to say the least.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying that there aren't situations and places that a Teamster can't get away with being lazy. I'm saying that from my experience as a package driver, it would be highly unlikely that you could get away with it.</p><p> </p><p>If I was coming from UPS freight...I might feel different. Who knows!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JustTired, post: 435752, member: 10234"] Ok, here's my take........ First, let me say that I've worked as a Teamster (UPS package) and as a UAW member (automotive). As a member of the UAW, I would have answered 'yes' to your question. That job left a 'bad taste' in my mouth for unions when I left it. Then I went to work for UPS. Totally different situation. You can not be lazy at UPS and get away with it. That being said...there are ways you can appear to be lazy. When you've got runners out there skipping lunch and breaks, speeding and otherwise taking unsafe shortcuts....they can make the driver who follows the rules appear to be underachieving (lazy?). Don't get me wrong. I've seen some drivers do some pretty boneheaded things and thought they deserved to lose their jobs. Yet they still kept them. What they did, for the most part, had nothing to do with being lazy. Just poor judgement to say the least. I'm not saying that there aren't situations and places that a Teamster can't get away with being lazy. I'm saying that from my experience as a package driver, it would be highly unlikely that you could get away with it. If I was coming from UPS freight...I might feel different. Who knows! [/QUOTE]
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