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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 435787" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Tired posed a different perspective, one i have seen, but can not comment on due to lack of true first hand knowledge. Seen the people be lazy, but dont know if it really is that way all day. my guess is with the UAW, it promotes the lazy. after all, where can you get laid off and still draw 95% of your wage.</p><p> </p><p>as for the teamsters at ups, this is my observation.</p><p> </p><p>laziness is something you have when you put your application in. it is your mindset and personality. those that are not lazy, would not be either way, with our without the union. those that are, will forever be that way, with or without the union.</p><p> </p><p>what unions do is to discourage personal excellence each and every day. while ups usually will not keep someone around that is always lazy. i day usually, because we have several in our center that are and have always been that way. but they are the exception. </p><p> </p><p>i also find that laziness "rubs off" on other employees more than those that try to achieve excellence. another reason why those that under produce regularly do not last long.</p><p> </p><p>so no, unionism at ups does not promote laziness. but it can and does at times protect those who are, at the same time discouraging personal excellence.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 435787, member: 484"] Tired posed a different perspective, one i have seen, but can not comment on due to lack of true first hand knowledge. Seen the people be lazy, but dont know if it really is that way all day. my guess is with the UAW, it promotes the lazy. after all, where can you get laid off and still draw 95% of your wage. as for the teamsters at ups, this is my observation. laziness is something you have when you put your application in. it is your mindset and personality. those that are not lazy, would not be either way, with our without the union. those that are, will forever be that way, with or without the union. what unions do is to discourage personal excellence each and every day. while ups usually will not keep someone around that is always lazy. i day usually, because we have several in our center that are and have always been that way. but they are the exception. i also find that laziness "rubs off" on other employees more than those that try to achieve excellence. another reason why those that under produce regularly do not last long. so no, unionism at ups does not promote laziness. but it can and does at times protect those who are, at the same time discouraging personal excellence. d [/QUOTE]
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