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<blockquote data-quote="barnyard" data-source="post: 435863" data-attributes="member: 13921"><p>I believe that unions at UPS promotes excellence up and down the chain. The unions have negotiated a wage and benefit package that the employees want and are working hard to keep. Managers have to have the productivity to be profitable with the higher costs. UPS is a profitable company, everyone from loaders to managers must be doing their jobs.</p><p></p><p>We have a non-union regional delivery company in my area. They pay about 1/2 our hourly and a much smaller benefit package. Conversations I have with their drivers, they are waaay less productive, have more accidents and I would imagine, lower profits (private company, so no way to know.)</p><p></p><p>They have drivers that routinely bring unattempted stops back. That does not happen in my building.</p><p></p><p>Several years ago, there was an attempt to organize the company. The owner said, "If a union is voted in, I will close this company." Whatever.</p><p></p><p>I suspect that if a union would have been approved, he would have increased productivity to match his increased costs. He would have also had lower turnover (currently, a cut driver waits less than 1 year for a route), lower turnover increases productivity as well.</p><p></p><p>Higher labor costs would result in raising the bar for potential employees also. </p><p></p><p>I do read about examples where managers have made horrendous mistakes in negotiating contracts and I think that the UAW is the best example of that. If there are ways for a company to improve productivity with technology, I am all for it.</p><p></p><p>I believe that if Fed Ex were to unionize, that it would be an even more formidable competitor. There are enough exUPS managers there, that they know what needs to be done.</p><p></p><p>TB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barnyard, post: 435863, member: 13921"] I believe that unions at UPS promotes excellence up and down the chain. The unions have negotiated a wage and benefit package that the employees want and are working hard to keep. Managers have to have the productivity to be profitable with the higher costs. UPS is a profitable company, everyone from loaders to managers must be doing their jobs. We have a non-union regional delivery company in my area. They pay about 1/2 our hourly and a much smaller benefit package. Conversations I have with their drivers, they are waaay less productive, have more accidents and I would imagine, lower profits (private company, so no way to know.) They have drivers that routinely bring unattempted stops back. That does not happen in my building. Several years ago, there was an attempt to organize the company. The owner said, "If a union is voted in, I will close this company." Whatever. I suspect that if a union would have been approved, he would have increased productivity to match his increased costs. He would have also had lower turnover (currently, a cut driver waits less than 1 year for a route), lower turnover increases productivity as well. Higher labor costs would result in raising the bar for potential employees also. I do read about examples where managers have made horrendous mistakes in negotiating contracts and I think that the UAW is the best example of that. If there are ways for a company to improve productivity with technology, I am all for it. I believe that if Fed Ex were to unionize, that it would be an even more formidable competitor. There are enough exUPS managers there, that they know what needs to be done. TB [/QUOTE]
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