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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 318783" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p>Not that I am answering your "call out", but I will reply to your post. I fail to see where you have proven anything except in your own mind. For that matter I have seen Griff prove a dang thing either. I take that back, both of you have proven (to me anyway) that you are both obsessed with winning an argument.</p><p> The remark is without doubt a metaphor, you choose to try to turn it into a wish for reality to prove your point that Griff is sick. I'm not justifying the comment, in fact I thought it quite crude and uncalled for. You asked Well, now that you have basically eliminated the use of metaphors it would sound as a threat or an admission of guilt. There is no doubt that Griff is obsessed with UPS and management and the union. Obsession is a psychological disorder ( or a very alluring fragrance), I think maybe he does need professional help. I am not a professional therapist but Tie, neither are you. I don't know what came first, the chicken or the egg (metaphor) but this constant bickering and name calling is way out of hand and prevents the point/counter point discussion of the issues brought up by both sides of these threads.</p><p> Now, I can't help but ask you this Tie. Where do YOU get off questioning MY integrity? My posts are upfront, honest and do not have underlying motives. It may seem to you that I am taking Griff's side in this, I assure you I am not. I do believe that many of the points he has made about management and the enforcement of the contract have merit. I also see where you and lifer make very valid points as well. Tie, I have posted comments in support of you in the past, not because of some undying loyalty to you but because I happened to agree with you at that time and I am sure I will in the future also. I can truthfully say the same for Griff.</p><p> Tie, you can respond to this if you like, I won't read it. I'm done with this thread, won't even open it again. So you and Griff can go back to you childish name calling all you want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 318783, member: 13254"] Not that I am answering your "call out", but I will reply to your post. I fail to see where you have proven anything except in your own mind. For that matter I have seen Griff prove a dang thing either. I take that back, both of you have proven (to me anyway) that you are both obsessed with winning an argument. The remark is without doubt a metaphor, you choose to try to turn it into a wish for reality to prove your point that Griff is sick. I'm not justifying the comment, in fact I thought it quite crude and uncalled for. You asked Well, now that you have basically eliminated the use of metaphors it would sound as a threat or an admission of guilt. There is no doubt that Griff is obsessed with UPS and management and the union. Obsession is a psychological disorder ( or a very alluring fragrance), I think maybe he does need professional help. I am not a professional therapist but Tie, neither are you. I don't know what came first, the chicken or the egg (metaphor) but this constant bickering and name calling is way out of hand and prevents the point/counter point discussion of the issues brought up by both sides of these threads. Now, I can't help but ask you this Tie. Where do YOU get off questioning MY integrity? My posts are upfront, honest and do not have underlying motives. It may seem to you that I am taking Griff's side in this, I assure you I am not. I do believe that many of the points he has made about management and the enforcement of the contract have merit. I also see where you and lifer make very valid points as well. Tie, I have posted comments in support of you in the past, not because of some undying loyalty to you but because I happened to agree with you at that time and I am sure I will in the future also. I can truthfully say the same for Griff. Tie, you can respond to this if you like, I won't read it. I'm done with this thread, won't even open it again. So you and Griff can go back to you childish name calling all you want. [/QUOTE]
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