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Message: <blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 6104693" data-attributes="member: 58700">i dont have to believe it or disbelieve it the proof will come out in the pudding over time. I dont know what the final number is I do know someone is actually trying to do something fix the deficit. I've been begging forever for someone to actually try to address the wasteful government spending. you seem desperate to try to claim victory when the process is still coming out of the starting blocks.</blockquote>