dot physical

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by countryman, May 24, 2009.

  1. countryman

    countryman New Member

    I am a full time driver in PA and have found out I have diabetes and will have to start taking insulin and won't pass my dot physical. Do they have to give me a position inside or will I get fired. We have a part time preload and reload. I was wondering if anyone else has ever encountered a similar situation.
  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Once you get to where you can maintain stable blood sugar levels by taking insulin orally, you can drive, but nothing bigger than a sprinter. My understanding is that if you can't get stable on the pills, and have to inject with a needle on a daily basis, you can't drive at all. This has happened to two guys in my building, and both worked inside until they were able to get back on the road. They got their 8 hours in by split shifting pre-load and local sort. I think you're under the Atlantic Area supplement so that's probably what you're looking at as well. You won't get fired.
  3. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    First - notify your management.
    Second - Notify the Union and get them involved ... that's what you pay them for.
    Last edited: May 24, 2009
  4. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    You cannot be fired, it violates both the contract and the Americans with Disabilities act.

    We have guys here who have lost their DOT cards for medical reasons and they work inside now. They get a 22.3 job.
  5. Big Babooba

    Big Babooba Well-Known Member

    We had a driver who was on pills. I believe he was taking Diabenese. He drove a P800 until he retired.
  6. ajblakejr

    ajblakejr Age quod agis


    First - Take care of yourself.

    Second - If you can get to the point were you can control it with diet...lose the weight / start working out / just do it.

    Review the advice provided in previous posts.

    The complications of diabetes can shorten your life and destroy the quaility of your current life.

    And forgive me for mentioning this but I found this the most important tool to get a few men that I know to take control of their Diabetes.

    Complication of Diabetes ---- ED ... and Cialis / Viagra can't give you a tempory fix on that complication.
  7. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    I forgive you. :wink2:
  8. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Do tell. Most of what I know comes from talking to the drivers involved. My understanding, and theirs, is that DOT regs prohibit diabetics from operating commercial vehicles over a certain weight limit. I can't remember off the top of my head precisely what that limit is, but the sprinter vans with the tall roof were the largest vehicles we had that were under it. A P800 would be way over. They would absolutely love to hear some precedent for the company allowing a diabetic driver to operate a larger vehicle.
  9. Big Babooba

    Big Babooba Well-Known Member

    That's all the info I know. I haven't seen him in years. I questioned him about his diabetes because we had another driver who lost his DOT card because of it. He told me that as long as he wasn't on insulin, he wasn't disqualified from driving.
  10. stevetheupsguy

    stevetheupsguy sʇǝʌǝʇɥǝndsƃnʎ

    Driver here just retired, was a diabetic. They took him off the road years ago and made a job for him.
  11. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Yes, Countryman. A UPSer named Murphy. UPS fired Murphy and then took the case all the way to the Supreme Court! See article about Murphy vs. UPS here . . .

    That nasty attitude by UPS upset Congress, so they clarified the ADA, effective Jan. 1, 2009. You should now be covered by the ADA.

    See Articles 14 and 16 of the Contract, as well as any relevant language in your regional Supplement.
  12. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

  13. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Excellent article from Naber, I should visit that site more often. I saw this on the same page:
    [FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Former UPS worker awarded $2.63 million
    [FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]A federal jury last month to award Jones a whopping $2.63 million in damages, including $2 million in punitive damages.
    [FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“We were able to show the outrageous and brazen fashion in which UPS retaliated against Mr. Jones through evidence of, among other things, repeatedly and admittedly sabotaging his efforts to return to work after he filed a workers’ compensation claim,” one of Jones’ attorneys, Frederic D. Deay II, said in an e-mail."[/FONT]

    Guess I'm the wrong jones, since I still have to go to work next week...
  14. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome to BrownCafe, Countryman! I hope you will keep us updated on what happens.
  15. stevetheupsguy

    stevetheupsguy sʇǝʌǝʇɥǝndsƃnʎ

    It sure is hard, keeping up with you Jones-es.:wink2: