Double Agent Union Rep

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by zul1732, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. zul1732

    zul1732 New Member

    What do you do if you can't trust your shop steward? I am one of many union employees at a small center without effective representation/support from local union officials... It's like the wild west here; lawless. And our "shop steward" looks out for management before union members. I have it on tape...
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  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Get yourself voted in when elections come around.
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  3. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

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  4. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less


    There's a pretty sweet sale going on right now:
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  5. burrheadd

    burrheadd Creepy pervert

  6. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    It is against policy to record on ups property and you will get terminated

    Dont tell people you recorded anything
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  7. Whatusay

    Whatusay Member

    Welcome to local 294!!!!!!!!!
  8. tacken

    tacken Active Member

    And this is a surprise to you? Sorry about your situation and good luck. Keep notes on everything that you talk about dates times people in the conversation!!!!
  9. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    His cover is blown? Great now we have to send in LP Team Six to extract him
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  10. Mink55

    Mink55 New Member

    I was in a situation like yourself a few years ago. Some of these Stewards have an employee following that gets them voted in every election. Even if the Steward is a piece of S#%T it wont matter come election time. I called mine out because I believed he was really poor at his representation for employees. Guess what happened next? He spreads some BS rumor about me to all the other Stewards. I'd say most of the Stewards at my building cared more about getting their own asses wiped before helping out the employees they represent. That's just how it is. Yeah I suppose you could run for election but you better start making friends now. As for now everything is going great for me with my Shop Stewards. It couldn't be better for me now, I ended up transferring buildings/locals. Sometimes the only way to get out of a :censored2: hole is to escape. Good luck.
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  11. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Sounds like you've got a rooster on your hands..
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  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

  13. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    Has the company recorded people??? If they have did they notify the parties involved?
  14. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    My statement is ups policy

    They may not have to depending on state law
  15. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    There are quite a few states with a one party law. In other words, as long as one of the parties knows that it is being recorded, it is legal.

    Problem here is that UPS has a policy against recording on, or in, company property. And we all know that there are two sets of rules. One for us and one for them.

    So it is highly likely that management does not abide by this policy, or feels that this policy does not apply to management, and records conversations without the affected employees knowing about it. This is legal in one party states.

    If you, as an employee, record on, or in, company property, you will be terminated.

    I have to say, though, that I am not aware, and have never been involved in a hearing, where UPS has recorded a conversation without the employees knowledge.
  16. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Maybe you've not been involved in or heard of the company acknowledging they recorded a conversation illegally or used the info without divulging how they got their information.

    It doesn't mean that they didn't do it.
  17. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Agreed. But if it hasn't ever been used in a hearing, who cares?
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    They save the inadmissible recordings for executive session.
  19. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    Was that a joke?
  20. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    how about being more specific and stating a factual example.