Double Standard

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by JackStraw, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. JackStraw

    JackStraw Active Member

    Yesterday a driver got hurt on route. An OCS was taking another driver who had been working inside that day out to relieve him and blew through a blinking red light stop sign and got T-Boned on the passenger side. Thankfully no one was hurt, just a little sore. We heard nothing of this from mgt. only through word of mouth by drivers. Nothing was said in the next days PCM. 2 days after, the OCS gave a power point meeting saying how he had let us all down by not following the methods etc. and that we could all learn from this. He also said that he will still point out things that we do wrong. That's it. It's funny. When a driver gets in an accident,( usually they're not as serious as this one), he automatically gets 3 days, a ride from the center manager, DM, and safety manager. And, if he is really lucky, a video presentation of the accident scene in front of the whole building.
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    I know.
    Sometimes it is great not being a Union employee.
  3. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Most on car sups scared me when I rode with them driving. Either they never spent much time on the road or didn't drive enough to stay in practice but most were unsafe.
  4. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    Than there are the people like me that Don't care about double standards.
  5. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Tier threes here are instant termination, which this is. This sup is a liability and should be treated no different than a driver. Maybe they don't have anyone that wants his job.
  6. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Video crash presentation? At our building if a driver gets in a crash any discussion at a PCM is only an anonymous review of the crash. At no time is the identity of the driver revealed.
  7. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Except during open enrollment, medical physicals, married and wife has insurance, pay grade reviews, peak on salary, ect
  8. JackStraw

    JackStraw Active Member

    They don't actually come out and say the drivers name. But its BS. The person feels bad enough as it is. Then they have to see how hindsight would have done in the situation.
  9. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Here it would be a warning letter if a tier 3 unless something really egregious.
  10. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Same at our building. ID is only known if the person wants it known.
  11. chuchu

    chuchu Guest

    We HAD an OCS that took over for a driver who had an accident. When he backed to a dock for a pick up he hit it pretty hard and BROKE THE CATWALK BUMPER OFF!! Let the good times roll. He WAS also the Division Safety Specialist. Sure do miss him. Not.
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    ​I'm glad you found something to feel good about.
  13. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    Whenever we have an accident or injury, it's mandated we "re-construct" it on video - which is then shown to the appropriate employee group. Whie our names aren't used, they don't bother to block off our faces...

    E.g. "At 3:36AM, Employee#1, while attempting to build the line-up, backed package car #123456 in to close to package car #654321, knocking the mirror off package car #123456 and scratching..."
  14. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    It's been some time back but a driver had some sort of " workplace humiliation" thing go down and since then they even go so far as to block out tractor numbers in any photos. We find out through the grapevine who had the issue but officially it's never declared.
  15. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Yea but atleast we don't have to pay 6grand for our medical and if we smoke (which I don't )we don't have to pay an additional 150 plus for our spouse and if she has medical she can't be one the ups insurance.
  16. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    Where I'm at they bought a traffic stoplight. When entering the building for the appropriate shift (Preload, drivers, Local Sort, feeders), it'll be red if there was an accident or injury the day before (otherwise it's green). At that point, you enter the designated central "safety zone" and the video re-construction will be playing in a continuous loop. We sign waivers during safety compliance training agreeing to participate in the re-construction "for educational" purposes. Which is always interesting... a few weeks ago, a seasonal Asian dude that's barely 5' and 100 lbs. soaking wet fell through the dock while unloading an air can (he was not seriously injured). The video reiterated "use your methods ... he violated one of the five keys to preventing slips and falls: look before stepping." I mean, come on, really?
  17. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    A couple years back we had an on car sup run a guy off the road and into a ditch which put him in the hospital who was on a motercycle and another sup get rear ended in the same day. Plus this peak we had a part time sup driving seasonaly rut a driveway 150 feet long and not report it.
  18. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    I always drove with the driver's side door open , except during heavy down pours .
    Never had any OCS repeat a ride with me .
  19. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    None of those apply to me or my wife and I don't have to pay Union dues!

    Yippee for me!
  20. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    Who cares? You know how this company works. If they crash, they crash. If you crash, you better bet the world is falling. Do yourself a favor: don't crash. The world is rigged. Take special care of number one, baby.