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<blockquote data-quote="Trucker Clock" data-source="post: 5265079" data-attributes="member: 70932"><p>No attitude. I just think you're naive if you didn't think it was a camera. And I may have snickered a little when you said you got your manager to admit that they can record, like you did something that no one else could do, and were bragging. Sorry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. Not until the contract allows them to, if it ever does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. The front facing camera is a different story, but the driver facing camera should never have the option enabled to record or show a live view. And if UPS agrees not to record, then even if they did it cannot be used against you.</p><p></p><p>The Lytx unit needs a camera to "detect" distracted driving. We will be extremely lucky to keep the recording feature from being activated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They can't, contractually.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They can't, contractually.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That would be illegal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you did, you would be unemployed right now. An illegal Wildcat strike.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Someone who actually knows the contract.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Refuse to do your job and drive a truck? Grounds for discharge.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The cameras are not illegal, even the ones recording in cab video.</p><p></p><p>The courts have all ruled so far that they are legal and are not an invasion of privacy. It does not mean that it could change in the future, but I won't hold my breath.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. And our best shot is to keep them the way they are now. No recording or live view. Just the distracted driving feature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>An illegal Wildcat strike.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They were lucky to get their jobs back. Legally and contractually, UPS did not have to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unhooking the camera will get you terminated, as will refusing to drive your truck.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They couldn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That issue has not come about yet. We will see after the arbitration ruling and possibly during the next contract negotiations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That will never happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're not wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are also correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trucker Clock, post: 5265079, member: 70932"] No attitude. I just think you're naive if you didn't think it was a camera. And I may have snickered a little when you said you got your manager to admit that they can record, like you did something that no one else could do, and were bragging. Sorry. Nope. Not until the contract allows them to, if it ever does. I agree. The front facing camera is a different story, but the driver facing camera should never have the option enabled to record or show a live view. And if UPS agrees not to record, then even if they did it cannot be used against you. The Lytx unit needs a camera to "detect" distracted driving. We will be extremely lucky to keep the recording feature from being activated. They can't, contractually. Exactly. They can't, contractually. That would be illegal. If you did, you would be unemployed right now. An illegal Wildcat strike. Someone who actually knows the contract. Refuse to do your job and drive a truck? Grounds for discharge. The cameras are not illegal, even the ones recording in cab video. The courts have all ruled so far that they are legal and are not an invasion of privacy. It does not mean that it could change in the future, but I won't hold my breath. Yep. And our best shot is to keep them the way they are now. No recording or live view. Just the distracted driving feature. Yep. An illegal Wildcat strike. They were lucky to get their jobs back. Legally and contractually, UPS did not have to. Yep. Unhooking the camera will get you terminated, as will refusing to drive your truck. They couldn't. That issue has not come about yet. We will see after the arbitration ruling and possibly during the next contract negotiations. That will never happen. Yep. You're not wrong. You are also correct. [/QUOTE]
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