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<blockquote data-quote="Dracula" data-source="post: 1151120" data-attributes="member: 42691"><p>Upstate, I wish I could say your posts surprise me, but I've heard too many of them to be. It IS surprising that you haven't gone into management, the way you automatically assume your union brothers and sisters are guilty. Feeders is a different animal than tearing up the roads in your package car. Speed all you want in the little brown truck, but as over 9.5 clearly states above, if you get in any sort of accident, the very first thing they will check in the telemetry, is your speed. It doesn't matter what other circumstances are around, if you get in a crash and the speed limit was 55 MPH, and you were going 56 MPH, case closed, avoidable accident. </p><p></p><p>As a few of the guys here have said, feeders is a different ballgame than package car. Where I'm from, safety is the only thing that matters to me. That is not to say I'm dragging my feet or missing the sort, but a speed limit is a speed LIMIT. Upstate, I could care less if I'm pissing off other drivers. Driving 54 in a 55 zone is not impeding traffic. It's not like we are in the hammer lane doing 54. Sure, we have plenty of <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> feeder drivers who drive, hammer down. That's their prerogative. I'd hate to be them when they wreck. And they eventually will, because if they are speeding, most likely, they are rushing on all phases of the job.</p><p></p><p>I drive at night, on a 70 MPH interstate with two lanes in each direction. I typically go 62 to 64 MPH. Even at that speed, in the dark, the 8 to 12 second eye lead time is long gone. I'm getting about 3 to 5 seconds with the low beams on. Maybe 6 to 8 with the high beams. Also, this is deer country. Our drivers hit deer frequently. Now, you can't do a lot about that, but being surprised by a deer directly in front of you can be dangerous. Your nature reaction is to swerve. That reaction can get you killed. So every bit of road ahead of you that you can see is vital. And the slower you drive, the more you can see. </p><p></p><p>I've been ridden with plenty. Our sups (or mine, anyway) never push the speed issue with me. I make my allotted drive time doing my speeds. And even if they did push it, that's when we are going to start our safety talk. Look, these supervisors will say whatever they want. It is up to each driver to stand up and make his own case for driving safe. Is Upstate going to come and stand up for you when your sitting at a panel hoping to get your job back because of an accident deemed avoidable? Of course not...he already assumes you're guilty.</p><p></p><p>This thread ties nicely into the two safety committee threads that have been going this weekend. Safety is a big catch word at UPS. But where the rubber hits the road, that talk gets shelved for production. Instructing drivers to drive OVER the speed limit is case in point. If you just thought this through, even a little, this would be an easy argument to thwart. Do you want me to drive safe, or fast?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dracula, post: 1151120, member: 42691"] Upstate, I wish I could say your posts surprise me, but I've heard too many of them to be. It IS surprising that you haven't gone into management, the way you automatically assume your union brothers and sisters are guilty. Feeders is a different animal than tearing up the roads in your package car. Speed all you want in the little brown truck, but as over 9.5 clearly states above, if you get in any sort of accident, the very first thing they will check in the telemetry, is your speed. It doesn't matter what other circumstances are around, if you get in a crash and the speed limit was 55 MPH, and you were going 56 MPH, case closed, avoidable accident. As a few of the guys here have said, feeders is a different ballgame than package car. Where I'm from, safety is the only thing that matters to me. That is not to say I'm dragging my feet or missing the sort, but a speed limit is a speed LIMIT. Upstate, I could care less if I'm pissing off other drivers. Driving 54 in a 55 zone is not impeding traffic. It's not like we are in the hammer lane doing 54. Sure, we have plenty of :censored: feeder drivers who drive, hammer down. That's their prerogative. I'd hate to be them when they wreck. And they eventually will, because if they are speeding, most likely, they are rushing on all phases of the job. I drive at night, on a 70 MPH interstate with two lanes in each direction. I typically go 62 to 64 MPH. Even at that speed, in the dark, the 8 to 12 second eye lead time is long gone. I'm getting about 3 to 5 seconds with the low beams on. Maybe 6 to 8 with the high beams. Also, this is deer country. Our drivers hit deer frequently. Now, you can't do a lot about that, but being surprised by a deer directly in front of you can be dangerous. Your nature reaction is to swerve. That reaction can get you killed. So every bit of road ahead of you that you can see is vital. And the slower you drive, the more you can see. I've been ridden with plenty. Our sups (or mine, anyway) never push the speed issue with me. I make my allotted drive time doing my speeds. And even if they did push it, that's when we are going to start our safety talk. Look, these supervisors will say whatever they want. It is up to each driver to stand up and make his own case for driving safe. Is Upstate going to come and stand up for you when your sitting at a panel hoping to get your job back because of an accident deemed avoidable? Of course not...he already assumes you're guilty. This thread ties nicely into the two safety committee threads that have been going this weekend. Safety is a big catch word at UPS. But where the rubber hits the road, that talk gets shelved for production. Instructing drivers to drive OVER the speed limit is case in point. If you just thought this through, even a little, this would be an easy argument to thwart. Do you want me to drive safe, or fast? [/QUOTE]
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