Drivers Working Preload (“Extra Work”) But Going Home After Poll

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Overpaid Union Thug, Aug 13, 2019.

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Is it ok when a driver works preload “extra work” then uses seniority to go home as an extra driver?

Poll closed Aug 15, 2019.
  1. No. They already reported to work therefore aren’t an extra driver.

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%
  2. Yes, seniority rules.

    13 vote(s)
    61.9%
  3. It’s not a contract violation but is morally wrong. They are screwing others out of extra work.

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    This is currently an issue in several of the buildings in our local. To me the language (National and Southern) seems silent on the issue. Some argue seniority. Others argue that having worked preload means the driver has already made themself available to drive. Some feel that, at the very least, it’s screwing other people (that didn’t get the call to work) out of extra work/OT. I figured I poll BC.
     
  2. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Anyone who is unavailable to drive should have called in. I don't see what working preload has to do with availability
     
  3. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    Extra work is extra work
    They get that option because they have the seniority
    Seniority also affords you the right to work NOT the right not to work.
    If you reported to work then you are available to work and should not get the option to go home unless you are out of hours
     
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  4. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    So you believe if they are sending home drivers that drivers shouldn't be allowed to use seniority to get time off if wanted?

    I disagree. Seniority rules
     
  5. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    usually if a full time driver is working preload it means there is no driving work for him or her. Not to mention i have never seen a full time driver come in on preload then go drive for 8 hours after
     
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  6. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    this is a dumb question
     
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  7. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Depends on the supplement. Here, vlo's are not by seniority but by mgmt favorites. Union says tough luck. However other supplements (southern? Atlantic?) Has VLO's by seniority
     
  8. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    We have drivers routinely start at 5-6-7am, make 1.5x until their start time then pull a route. Preload has a call-in list they must exhaust before sups can work
     
  9. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Management has tried to play the "seniority gives you the right to work" card but we file and win.

    Seniority is everything in this job and a 58yo beat up driver shouldn't have to work because some 22yo cover would like to go drink.
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  10. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Seniority does not give you the right to not work here. It goes by favorites
     
  11. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    are full time drivers come in with preload if they work at 3 or 4 am
     
  12. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Huh?
     
  13. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    are preload starts at 3 or 4 am, drivers have to come in at that time
     
  14. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I understood that from the first post. ;)
     
  15. He is trying to say ( very poorly) are drivers working the entire preload shift and then doing a full route afterwards
     
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yes. We have a few here that come in when needed. They usually start at 4am. Off the clock at 6pm. Pisses our center management team off but they have the seniority.
     
  17. Make the money while you can.
     
  18. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    Best arse kissers first
     
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  19. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Oh I see. No, there is an extra work call-in list. If the preload is short staffed they start calling drivers at 5-6, so it might only be an hour or two of preload
     
  20. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    Hahaha

    Or preload does not even start until 6
    We are lucky to get out of the building at 1015