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What has happened to our "Early Contract Agreement" as publicized on the UPS Press Release website as of 3/21/13?
Q: What is the status of negotiations between UPS and the Teamsters?
A: The current negotiations between UPS and the Teamsters are ongoing. Negotiations began on September 27, 2012, nearly a year prior to the expiration of the current agreement. Progress has been made over the last several months. In the past two negotiations, UPS and the union also began early and arrived at new agreements well before the existing agreements expired. Our present relationship is a positive one. The Teamsters recognize that UPS success translates into jobs and progress for all UPS employees. UPS remains confident we can reach an agreement with the Teamsters in advance of the current contract's expiration date of July 31.
I believe the main problem that our Teamster negotiators are having is that there is NOTHING left to give back to UPS. We have given back all that we can during the past two contracts. "Part-time" employees have been the "sacrificial lambs" in the past and now the company wants MORE....
Scott Davis is between a "Rock and a Hardplace".. He has exhausted every avenue of increased production and associated profits through supervisors working, harassment, job cuts, management reductions, technology, etc.. and is now looking for that next way to impress Wall Street and investors. The ONLY way he can get MORE is to TAKE it from US...
As in all past contracts..... ANY language on Harassment, 9.5, etc.. will NOT be taken seriously by UPS. They have DEEP pockets and will fight and delay endlessly through the grievance process. ONLY the ECONOMIC proposals will actually mean anything to all of us. So, when we consider this contract, I personally will be looking more at the economic issues rather than the non-economic issues such as harassment. Harassment in one form or another will always exist at UPS regardless of contract language.
At this point in time, I feel that hall should reschedule negotiations for July 2013 unless for some reason UPS decides to make their "Last, Best, and Final Offer" within the next 10, 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 days and that offer does not include any "cuts" in our benefits or wages.... C Ya in July Scott....best of luck on those UPS stock prices ; )
Jim Casey:
"Are we working for money alone? If so, there is no surer way not to get it. 1947"
A fair exchange
To give, or get, what is due in accordance with the principles of equal exchange does not call for tricky schemes or methods. On the contrary, if we in any way resort to such trickery, we will not only violate high ethical standards but usually end up with exactly what we deserve — the short end of the bargain.And this is especially true in dealing with people under our supervision.
We cannot hope to get more than we give. Even if there were no labor unions to demand it of us, it would be our duty to pay our people fairly, and even liberally, and treat them decently in every other respect. And, of course, it is equally their duty to give us full value for what we give them.
Read more: http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f6/new-ups-scott-davis-ceo-vs-2013-teamsters-349044/#ixzz2OBsM2kSe
Q: What is the status of negotiations between UPS and the Teamsters?
A: The current negotiations between UPS and the Teamsters are ongoing. Negotiations began on September 27, 2012, nearly a year prior to the expiration of the current agreement. Progress has been made over the last several months. In the past two negotiations, UPS and the union also began early and arrived at new agreements well before the existing agreements expired. Our present relationship is a positive one. The Teamsters recognize that UPS success translates into jobs and progress for all UPS employees. UPS remains confident we can reach an agreement with the Teamsters in advance of the current contract's expiration date of July 31.
I believe the main problem that our Teamster negotiators are having is that there is NOTHING left to give back to UPS. We have given back all that we can during the past two contracts. "Part-time" employees have been the "sacrificial lambs" in the past and now the company wants MORE....
Scott Davis is between a "Rock and a Hardplace".. He has exhausted every avenue of increased production and associated profits through supervisors working, harassment, job cuts, management reductions, technology, etc.. and is now looking for that next way to impress Wall Street and investors. The ONLY way he can get MORE is to TAKE it from US...
As in all past contracts..... ANY language on Harassment, 9.5, etc.. will NOT be taken seriously by UPS. They have DEEP pockets and will fight and delay endlessly through the grievance process. ONLY the ECONOMIC proposals will actually mean anything to all of us. So, when we consider this contract, I personally will be looking more at the economic issues rather than the non-economic issues such as harassment. Harassment in one form or another will always exist at UPS regardless of contract language.
At this point in time, I feel that hall should reschedule negotiations for July 2013 unless for some reason UPS decides to make their "Last, Best, and Final Offer" within the next 10, 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 days and that offer does not include any "cuts" in our benefits or wages.... C Ya in July Scott....best of luck on those UPS stock prices ; )
- 1907–1962 James E. "Jim" Casey
- 1962–1972 George D. Smith
- 1972–1973 Paul Oberkotter
- 1973–1980 Harold Oberkotter
- 1980–1984 George Lamb
- 1984–1990 John W. Rogers
- 1990–1997 Kent C. "Oz" Nelson
- 1997–2001 James P. Kelly
- 2002–2007 Michael L. "Mike" Eskew
- 2008 – July 2013 Scott Davis - Short Term Vision - Long Term Greed
- 2013 - ???
Jim Casey:
"Are we working for money alone? If so, there is no surer way not to get it. 1947"
A fair exchange
To give, or get, what is due in accordance with the principles of equal exchange does not call for tricky schemes or methods. On the contrary, if we in any way resort to such trickery, we will not only violate high ethical standards but usually end up with exactly what we deserve — the short end of the bargain.And this is especially true in dealing with people under our supervision.
We cannot hope to get more than we give. Even if there were no labor unions to demand it of us, it would be our duty to pay our people fairly, and even liberally, and treat them decently in every other respect. And, of course, it is equally their duty to give us full value for what we give them.
Read more: http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f6/new-ups-scott-davis-ceo-vs-2013-teamsters-349044/#ixzz2OBsM2kSe
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