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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 97308" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Good question and thinking but in 1985' the contract was expiring as the 82' contract was for 3 years. Instead of the normal process, it was decided to extend the 82' contract and it's language for 2 more years and I know the first raise we got under the extension was taken for H&W but I can't remember if the 2nd year raise was also. Most argued at the time we should have been allowed to vote on the extension but weren't so that alone should answer many questions. That act alone also ignited the TDU movement that lead to many internal union reforms such as direct election of the union president which wasn't the case prior to.</p><p> </p><p>As to the comment about the company giving in so easy, I can see that since I think on the one hand they hold all the cards, but you can bet UPS does see some advantage somewhere and the most obvious I think you and I will both agree on. </p><p> </p><p>Think on this! Let's do nothing and wait until late spring of 2008' to begin like we normally do, drag feet, strike authorization vote, public posturing, drag contract beyond expiration date, you know the kinda crap we always do and in the meantime FedEx who has an even greater ground network than in 2002' and who also has numerous automated buildings in their ground network prepared to go live last half of 07' be in a sweet position to scare the customer and whether we strike or not, kill all the hard work and ground we've gained especially the last couple of years. That issue alone even though it wasn't listed on the survey was why I encouraged the union to seek early talks. Any solution to H&W I'm already resided to the fact it will require less if not no raise at all and could even include some form of direct payout weekly or monthly from the employee to either maintain or get us back to where we were so IMO that's a lesser issue to begin with. Let's spoil FedEx's party at our expense is priority #1 IMO. If we don't do that first, chances are we have no chance at all on the other issues!</p><p> </p><p>JMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 97308, member: 2189"] Good question and thinking but in 1985' the contract was expiring as the 82' contract was for 3 years. Instead of the normal process, it was decided to extend the 82' contract and it's language for 2 more years and I know the first raise we got under the extension was taken for H&W but I can't remember if the 2nd year raise was also. Most argued at the time we should have been allowed to vote on the extension but weren't so that alone should answer many questions. That act alone also ignited the TDU movement that lead to many internal union reforms such as direct election of the union president which wasn't the case prior to. As to the comment about the company giving in so easy, I can see that since I think on the one hand they hold all the cards, but you can bet UPS does see some advantage somewhere and the most obvious I think you and I will both agree on. Think on this! Let's do nothing and wait until late spring of 2008' to begin like we normally do, drag feet, strike authorization vote, public posturing, drag contract beyond expiration date, you know the kinda crap we always do and in the meantime FedEx who has an even greater ground network than in 2002' and who also has numerous automated buildings in their ground network prepared to go live last half of 07' be in a sweet position to scare the customer and whether we strike or not, kill all the hard work and ground we've gained especially the last couple of years. That issue alone even though it wasn't listed on the survey was why I encouraged the union to seek early talks. Any solution to H&W I'm already resided to the fact it will require less if not no raise at all and could even include some form of direct payout weekly or monthly from the employee to either maintain or get us back to where we were so IMO that's a lesser issue to begin with. Let's spoil FedEx's party at our expense is priority #1 IMO. If we don't do that first, chances are we have no chance at all on the other issues! JMO. [/QUOTE]
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