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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1845490" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Why would you spend such enormous amounts of money for a job when compared pays so little? Why would so many give up far more lucrative private careers for such a low pay job? If being President is about service to and for the greater good, then why do people who are ex Presidents tend to be far wealthier than they were before entering the office? Why is it that only very politically connected people or the wealthy the only ones to win nominations and/or win the Presidency? Why do no common or ordinary folk never win the job? Is the status of wealth a pure measurement of intelligence and good ideas? If true and the wealthy in effect run this country, why is it so screwed up and on many measures getting worse? If the wealthy are the job creators as we are told and by any matrix, the wealth of the wealthy class has grown measurably while the economy has for most has shrank or even collapsed, where are all the jobs?</p><p></p><p>If the wealthy abhor big gov't as we are often told, then why during the most expansive period of gov't power, the assets of the wealthy exploded? Why during the last 30 to 40 years with the cries and claims for smaller gov't has gov't actually exploded and the amount of wealth shifted upwards to be concentrated into the hands of a wealthy ruling class? If the claim that gov't controls the ability of the wealthy to abuse the common man, then how with all this gov't growth has the common man found himself in such dire conditions while the wealthy enjoy very good conditions?</p><p></p><p>Why at the same time has massive amounts of taxpayer dollars and taxpayer liable debt has been created and given to this plutocratic class to prop them up while the common folk are left to flounder? If one follows the food stamp dollar and at the end of its journey its rest is in the bank account of a well connected Corporation and that Corporation has a huge lobbyist footprint spreading campaign dollars to these type people in the meme, is it really the poor who are the real welfare abusers? Are the plutocrats the creators of the poor in the first place so they have an excuse to profit from it? Are the poor really little more than a strawman and red herring to keep the rest of us from looking and thinking? </p><p></p><p>Having wealth in and of itself does not make a person bad but seems to me a whole lot of wealthy people go a long way to pay for and create a bad gov't that makes for a bad life for so many of the rest of us. So next time you hear someone extol the virtues of the very rich as being job creators and doing so much good in society, dare to push yourself to observe, think and ask questions. Challenge assertions to see if they are true and dare yourself to face the contradictions you begin to see as you dare to question. And same is true of those who claim the gov't is there to protect us from the abuse of this wealthy and oligarchic class.</p><p></p><p>It's been said that the greatest job creators is not the big boys but the small business and small entrepreneurs who are the biggest job creators and the bulk of them are ordinary folk much like us, who live around and among us, socialize with us, go to church with us, among us day in and day out. I'm not for taxing the rich because they pay no taxes in the first place as they can embed those costs in the goods and services they sell and then guess who pays those? I'd suggest the claim of who doesn't pay taxes in this country has been turned upside down and then sold to you by marketing experts. We say the poor don't pay taxes, putting aside where they got the money for the moment, if they purchase the first product in any store, it may be that they paid more in taxes for the product they bought than it cost to actually make the product itself. If that's true, who is really creating poverty in this country? Who benefits from such conditions?</p><p></p><p>Do we dare ask the questions that we should but out of fear refuse to face?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1845490, member: 2189"] Why would you spend such enormous amounts of money for a job when compared pays so little? Why would so many give up far more lucrative private careers for such a low pay job? If being President is about service to and for the greater good, then why do people who are ex Presidents tend to be far wealthier than they were before entering the office? Why is it that only very politically connected people or the wealthy the only ones to win nominations and/or win the Presidency? Why do no common or ordinary folk never win the job? Is the status of wealth a pure measurement of intelligence and good ideas? If true and the wealthy in effect run this country, why is it so screwed up and on many measures getting worse? If the wealthy are the job creators as we are told and by any matrix, the wealth of the wealthy class has grown measurably while the economy has for most has shrank or even collapsed, where are all the jobs? If the wealthy abhor big gov't as we are often told, then why during the most expansive period of gov't power, the assets of the wealthy exploded? Why during the last 30 to 40 years with the cries and claims for smaller gov't has gov't actually exploded and the amount of wealth shifted upwards to be concentrated into the hands of a wealthy ruling class? If the claim that gov't controls the ability of the wealthy to abuse the common man, then how with all this gov't growth has the common man found himself in such dire conditions while the wealthy enjoy very good conditions? Why at the same time has massive amounts of taxpayer dollars and taxpayer liable debt has been created and given to this plutocratic class to prop them up while the common folk are left to flounder? If one follows the food stamp dollar and at the end of its journey its rest is in the bank account of a well connected Corporation and that Corporation has a huge lobbyist footprint spreading campaign dollars to these type people in the meme, is it really the poor who are the real welfare abusers? Are the plutocrats the creators of the poor in the first place so they have an excuse to profit from it? Are the poor really little more than a strawman and red herring to keep the rest of us from looking and thinking? Having wealth in and of itself does not make a person bad but seems to me a whole lot of wealthy people go a long way to pay for and create a bad gov't that makes for a bad life for so many of the rest of us. So next time you hear someone extol the virtues of the very rich as being job creators and doing so much good in society, dare to push yourself to observe, think and ask questions. Challenge assertions to see if they are true and dare yourself to face the contradictions you begin to see as you dare to question. And same is true of those who claim the gov't is there to protect us from the abuse of this wealthy and oligarchic class. It's been said that the greatest job creators is not the big boys but the small business and small entrepreneurs who are the biggest job creators and the bulk of them are ordinary folk much like us, who live around and among us, socialize with us, go to church with us, among us day in and day out. I'm not for taxing the rich because they pay no taxes in the first place as they can embed those costs in the goods and services they sell and then guess who pays those? I'd suggest the claim of who doesn't pay taxes in this country has been turned upside down and then sold to you by marketing experts. We say the poor don't pay taxes, putting aside where they got the money for the moment, if they purchase the first product in any store, it may be that they paid more in taxes for the product they bought than it cost to actually make the product itself. If that's true, who is really creating poverty in this country? Who benefits from such conditions? Do we dare ask the questions that we should but out of fear refuse to face? [/QUOTE]
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