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<blockquote data-quote="BigGuy2732" data-source="post: 5237825" data-attributes="member: 92701">Even if we do use scripture, that isn’t what the scripture means, they will say. Which always means that it’s contrary to the traditional understanding of whatever it is for the first 1500 years of Christianity. Like for example, when Zwingli in a book of his brought up that the Christian faithful for 1500 years up until the Protestant revolt always believed unquestioningly that Christ was referring to his literal body and blood in John 6, he basically says that for 1500 years Christians got it entirely wrong. That was the sticking point for me. I think even Luther said that the Eucharist is the single most agreed upon piece of Christian faith with absolute zero debate. And the Christian faith went through so much heresy and so much debate. There is not a single debate about the literal interpretation of John 6 anywhere. It can’t be ignored, and that’s why I became Catholic. For the Eucharist. The most universal Christian understanding of a sacrament until some dude named Zwingli was “guess they were just wrong.”</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BigGuy2732, post: 5237825, member: 92701"] Even if we do use scripture, that isn’t what the scripture means, they will say. Which always means that it’s contrary to the traditional understanding of whatever it is for the first 1500 years of Christianity. Like for example, when Zwingli in a book of his brought up that the Christian faithful for 1500 years up until the Protestant revolt always believed unquestioningly that Christ was referring to his literal body and blood in John 6, he basically says that for 1500 years Christians got it entirely wrong. That was the sticking point for me. I think even Luther said that the Eucharist is the single most agreed upon piece of Christian faith with absolute zero debate. And the Christian faith went through so much heresy and so much debate. There is not a single debate about the literal interpretation of John 6 anywhere. It can’t be ignored, and that’s why I became Catholic. For the Eucharist. The most universal Christian understanding of a sacrament until some dude named Zwingli was “guess they were just wrong.” [/QUOTE]

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