Encouraging 9.5

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by undies, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. undies

    undies Active Member

    I think there is a lot of misinformation and even plain ignorance among a lot of drivers regarding 9.5. I'd love to be able to make some sort of information sheet to give people so that they can see the benefits of opting in. Whether it be more routes put in, more drivers being hired and even just less stress!

    What are the rules on something like that? Could I make flyers and pass them out? Put them on people's windshields in the parking lot? Am I being too ambitious here?!
  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    The best thing to do, would be confer with your Local Union BA.

    You would want their advice and involvement of the stewards.

    Going rogue.... could present challenges.

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  3. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    Just talk to people 1 on 1. I agree there is a lot of ignorance about it. But I have gotten many people to "see the light".
  4. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    What's the point of the list when the company just doles out grievance payments instead of reducing work load?

    I'm a cover driver with under 4 years seniority. My center manager recently shut down one of my 9.5 grievances. My steward accepted what the center manager said. I got screwed in the end. Why even try anymore?
  5. tacken

    tacken Active Member

    Its this simple they will win always. Slow the hell down work safe. And file file file........
  6. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Because some centers reduce the work load and do everything they can to keep people on the list from filing.
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  7. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Plus, plus, if there are hunnerts and hunnerts of grievances filed, the union will know that that is an issue that needs to be addressed in the next contract.
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  8. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    Here they are afraid of people even getting on the list. Dispatch is good everyday except friday when routes are magically cut for some reason
  9. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Ours are cut on Mondays. Most of the time, everyone on the 9.5 list has a good Friday because they have already had 3 days over.
  10. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    my problem is simple. im under 4 years seniority. i cover, and i rarely cover a route for an entire week. and there are rarely bid routes for me to cover the entire week. as such, im just screwed every day of the week. ive recently read on here that february is a light month. its been one of the worst months for my center for quite some time. its kind of like peak right now. every day managment says we are short drivers for routes, yet they never hire more drivers.
  11. burrheadd

    burrheadd Creepy pervert

    So what's your point?
  12. 8 Hour Day

    8 Hour Day Active Member

    9.5 protections apply to cover drivers as well. You have to file to get the protections. See your steward.

    February is light for packages, but some in mgmt. will tell lower seniority part timers to "go back in building" and not show up in brows, thus creating a false shortage of drivers. Remember, they're concerned with SPORH (as it pertains to the whole center), and not your fair day of work. Ejamukate yourself as to your rights.

    If your 9.5 rights aren't being respected, the other option is to quit complaining for a while, but keep filing. Then, when they load your route up especially bad, stay out for 13.8 hours and bring back a few stops as "missed" due to hitting DOT hours limit. This will, of course, bring their wrath, but will also be a line in the sand.

    I simply had to suggest this might happen for my 190 stops twice a week to drop to 160 twice a week & 150 the rest of the week...
  13. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    my point is this. the OP wants to educate drivers on why the 9.5 list is good. im educating you drivers on where the 9.5 list fails to protect a large percentage of UPS employees. there are a ton of us drivers that get screwed all the time and there is nothing we can do about it. all we can do it get in the truck and go with :censored2: like 120 stops and 200 miles. happens all the time. nothing can be done other than bending over and taking it
  14. 8 Hour Day

    8 Hour Day Active Member

    Slow down... hit the 14 hour mark, bring the packages back.
  15. burrheadd

    burrheadd Creepy pervert

    No there's a few other things you can do
    1. Quit
    2. Take the overtime like a man until you get 4 years in
    3. Keep wining like a little bitch
    I dunno .......
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  16. mjjlohn

    mjjlohn Active Member

    I mean you're under 4 years seniority.... deal with it, it's part of the job
  17. undies

    undies Active Member

    If you have some friendly cover/utility drivers, ask one of them to let you win a bid on a route for 1 week. It may take some persuasive talk but it will be well worth it if you can make it onto the 9.5 list that way. Make sure you keep it on the DL so management doesn't lighten you up on purpose to keep you under!
  18. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    Whoa, little man. No need to be a keyboard warrior.
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  19. Future

    Future Victory Ride

    We have about 5 PT drivers on my belt ....been driving maybe 5yrs.....They act and sound as if James Casey and Poppa Hoffa are their Relatives .... makes me sick
  20. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    What do you mean?