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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DriveInDriѵeOut" data-source="post: 3059417" data-attributes="member: 44954">I'm not suggesting that's the "real" unemployment rate, I think suggesting it's even possible to measure this fabled "real" rate is nonsense. That entire argument is nothing more than a political game republicans used to downplay the economic gains that were made during the years obama was in office. That spin doesn't work with me.The unemployment rate is simply a tool for gauging the state of the labor market. It's useful for comparing to other years not as a be all end all perfect measure of employment.Whether you want to call that "real" or not seems like a silly debate to me.  Being what it is, I'm happy with it at 4%.</blockquote>