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<blockquote data-quote="SolidWoodPanel" data-source="post: 3573322" data-attributes="member: 68397">But you aren&#039;t free. You pay taxes to a government that acts regardless of your will or you face penalties. You can&#039;t go out and do whatever you please in public without facing penalties, despite, maybe your actions being a victimless &quot;crime.&quot; And that&#039;s just the more coherent notions of freedom. Maybe you just left-wing, transgender, trans-humanistic ads, but you don&#039;t dictate what you see, hear.I believe or rather would prefer in the old notion of freedom, which has since been somewhat adopted and subverted by libertarians that, &quot;one&#039;s freedoms&#039; end at the next person&#039;s nose.&quot; Meaning, I could give a <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> about a person&#039;s drug habits, sexual orientation, religious beliefs etc., as long as it doesn&#039;t affect my family&#039;s safety, or my business&#039;s prosperity. If you&#039;re off the clock at 6 and want to dress as Barney in public and go have a furry orgy in the privacy of your friends, IDGAF. In your at a pride parade or something similar, go own ahead, just don&#039;t heckle me for not appearing to give a damn when I&#039;m out teaching my son some life lessons. If you somehow can some crystal meth and are deemed fine the next morning, go ahead and operate. If you can&#039;t however, you should be punished for putting other lives and lifestyles in danger. That&#039;s my point. We have freedoms, but to an extent. Enjoy what you have, maybe parade for others to have the same thing, but know the cost.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SolidWoodPanel, post: 3573322, member: 68397"] But you aren't free. You pay taxes to a government that acts regardless of your will or you face penalties. You can't go out and do whatever you please in public without facing penalties, despite, maybe your actions being a victimless "crime." And that's just the more coherent notions of freedom. Maybe you just left-wing, transgender, trans-humanistic ads, but you don't dictate what you see, hear. I believe or rather would prefer in the old notion of freedom, which has since been somewhat adopted and subverted by libertarians that, "one's freedoms' end at the next person's nose." Meaning, I could give a :censored: about a person's drug habits, sexual orientation, religious beliefs etc., as long as it doesn't affect my family's safety, or my business's prosperity. If you're off the clock at 6 and want to dress as Barney in public and go have a furry orgy in the privacy of your friends, IDGAF. In your at a pride parade or something similar, go own ahead, just don't heckle me for not appearing to give a damn when I'm out teaching my son some life lessons. If you somehow can some crystal meth and are deemed fine the next morning, go ahead and operate. If you can't however, you should be punished for putting other lives and lifestyles in danger. That's my point. We have freedoms, but to an extent. Enjoy what you have, maybe parade for others to have the same thing, but know the cost. [/QUOTE]

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