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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH PEOPLE!!!
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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 1375407" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>Did I ever suggest that LU348 members should be forced into Teamcare? No. Hell, I was ticked off that I was forced into it. I would not want anyone else to have been forced into it without their consent.</p><p></p><p>This came up because most people don't understand the language in the NMUPSA. The clause "Notwithstanding any provision in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum...has people confused as to what it means. According to Merriam Webster -</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fnotwithstanding&ei=R8jaU9jIFYSlyATK14KQBg&usg=AFQjCNHAIQfPAk1Ax341HI3xhcaWsEidGg&bvm=bv.72185853,d.aWw" target="_blank"><em><strong>Notwithstanding</strong></em> - Merriam-Webster Online</a></p><p></p><p>without being prevented by (something)</p><p></p><p>So, the language in question should read as follows:</p><p></p><p>"Without being prevented by" any provision in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum, effective January 1, 2014 health and welfare coverage for all full-time and part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter who would have had health and welfare coverage provided by an Employer signatory to this Agreement will instead be provided coverage through the CSH&W Fund regardless of the employee’s work location. Weekly payments for covered employees shall be in accordance with the rules set forth in the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum. If there are none then the rules set forth in the Central States Supplement shall apply. UPS will be responsible for making the weekly payments to the CSH&W Plan to provide the medical coverage.</p><p></p><p>My local, or rider, did not have me in a healthcare plan, but according to the contract, my rider could have addressed this issue and it would take precedence over the master, as stated in Article 25 Section 2. It pisses me off that there are still people saying that healthcare is in the national contract so it cannot be negotiated in a supplement or rider. Hoffa and Hall were even pushing that BS telling people to vote yes because Teamcare is a done deal.</p><p></p><p>LU348 in Akron, Ohio came up because, if what Hoffa and Hall were correct in what they were trying to force down our throats, then LU348 would be forced into Teamcare.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not correct. Local 348 got to keep their healthplan, not get pushed into Teamcare, to benefit non UPSers. But, they got to keep it due to the clause in the Ohio Rider, not because of an alternative healthplan and "opting" out of Teamcare.</p><p></p><p><strong>Ohio Rider To The Central Region</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>OHIO CONFERENCE</strong></p><p><strong>OF TEAMSTERS U P S, INC.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Pat Darrow, Chairman Karl Martin, Chairman</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Local 348 will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan for the life of</p><p>this Agreement.</p><p></p><p><strong>For the Union: For the Company:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>_____________________ ___________________</p><p></p><p>Pat Darrow Karl Martin</p><p></p><p>Date _____/_____/_____ Date _____/_____/_____</p><p></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 1375407, member: 8481"] Did I ever suggest that LU348 members should be forced into Teamcare? No. Hell, I was ticked off that I was forced into it. I would not want anyone else to have been forced into it without their consent. This came up because most people don't understand the language in the NMUPSA. The clause "Notwithstanding any provision in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum...has people confused as to what it means. According to Merriam Webster - [URL='http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fnotwithstanding&ei=R8jaU9jIFYSlyATK14KQBg&usg=AFQjCNHAIQfPAk1Ax341HI3xhcaWsEidGg&bvm=bv.72185853,d.aWw'][I][B]Notwithstanding[/B][/I] - Merriam-Webster Online[/URL] without being prevented by (something) So, the language in question should read as follows: "Without being prevented by" any provision in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum, effective January 1, 2014 health and welfare coverage for all full-time and part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter who would have had health and welfare coverage provided by an Employer signatory to this Agreement will instead be provided coverage through the CSH&W Fund regardless of the employee’s work location. Weekly payments for covered employees shall be in accordance with the rules set forth in the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum. If there are none then the rules set forth in the Central States Supplement shall apply. UPS will be responsible for making the weekly payments to the CSH&W Plan to provide the medical coverage. My local, or rider, did not have me in a healthcare plan, but according to the contract, my rider could have addressed this issue and it would take precedence over the master, as stated in Article 25 Section 2. It pisses me off that there are still people saying that healthcare is in the national contract so it cannot be negotiated in a supplement or rider. Hoffa and Hall were even pushing that BS telling people to vote yes because Teamcare is a done deal. LU348 in Akron, Ohio came up because, if what Hoffa and Hall were correct in what they were trying to force down our throats, then LU348 would be forced into Teamcare. This is not correct. Local 348 got to keep their healthplan, not get pushed into Teamcare, to benefit non UPSers. But, they got to keep it due to the clause in the Ohio Rider, not because of an alternative healthplan and "opting" out of Teamcare. [B]Ohio Rider To The Central Region OHIO CONFERENCE OF TEAMSTERS U P S, INC. Pat Darrow, Chairman Karl Martin, Chairman LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING [/B] Local 348 will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan for the life of this Agreement. [B]For the Union: For the Company: [/B] _____________________ ___________________ Pat Darrow Karl Martin Date _____/_____/_____ Date _____/_____/_____ [B] [/B] [/QUOTE]
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