Extra Work

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by WillcontactA$AP, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. WillcontactA$AP

    WillcontactA$AP New Member

    Can a full time package car driver come into work the preload and then go home because they “got the day off” ? I’m asking because I am also a full time package car driver next in line to be called for the A.M. shift. I could have worked the A.M. shift and my regular shift.
     
  2. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Extra work is offered in seniority order and forced from the bottom up. Low guys rarely work preload in my building. Several drivers have grieved it and we have a posting twice a year for those that want to be offered extra work.
     
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  3. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Here's a scenario....No drivers sign up for extra work and the company is in one of their "hiring freezes". Does that give management the right to do union work?
     
  4. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Contractually, they would have to force from the bottom up.

    That is sort of what happened in our building. We did not have a sign up and they were calling people that lived close to the building to work the preload. 2 guys that are near the top of the seniority list grieved it and won. Now, they work so many hours on the preload, that they go out light to avoid going over 12 hours.
     
  5. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    So you're saying the company can force FT drivers to come in to work preload AND deliver a route too? All because the company simply doesn't want to hire anyone? ARE YOU :censored2:ING KIDDING ME!?
     
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    A FT driver cannot be forced to work out of classification. If they don't get anyone they are suppose to call surrounding buildings. If they still dont get anyone then needs of the business would allow sups to work.
     
  7. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    So the company refuses to hire and maintain an adequate staff and that gives them the right to have supervisors do bargaining unit work?
     
  8. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I agree with you but this is how it is setup right now. Honestly it's never come to this as these guys suck up all the OT they can get. I tell drivers not to work preload to prove a point but they are money hungry and don't give a :censored2:.
     
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  9. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    That's what I did last summer. I actually got most drivers to agree not to come in and preload because they are literally taking away someone's potential job. Got a few supervisor working grievances paid too, and I hope to continue that this summer again!
     
  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    And that's how your suppose to play it. Now you have a paper trail of the building being understaffed. Now the union can step in and say you are understaffed and we have proof from this date on.
     
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  11. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    I assume you are making a funny...
     
  12. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    We have 4-5 guys that work the preload pretty much every day. Their routes have to go out lighter, which adds at least 1 more FT driver every day. So there is that.

    Also, double shifting is supposed to be offered to PT people before FT is offered the extra work. We had 2 local sorters try it, they hated it and went back to their 3 hours of local sort.
     
  13. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    The driver is still on the 9.5 list.
     
  14. Martini

    Martini Member

    I've only seen it happen a few times a year, but I've worked the Pre-load 4:00--9:00am shift unloading feeders with someone who is a full-time package car driver, and after 9:00am, he changed into his uniform and went delivering his usual route.
     
  15. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Here the FT drivers on preload get lighter routes but routes aren’t added in return. Other drivers get screwed with their work.
     
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    Last edited: Apr 11, 2020
  16. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    The drivers that sign up for preload but go home after preload instead of working their normal shift are :censored2:bags. You’ll hear the excuse of seniority, and it’s legit, but they are still jerks for taking extra work from people that ACTUALLY wanted it.
     
  17. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    How is a full time driver entitled to work a preload shift unless on lay off? That makes zero sense
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    It does when the preload is short staffed.
     
  19. Sudz

    Sudz Well-Known Member

    Would you rather have supervisors perform that work?
     
  20. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    Nope.

    "Improperly staffed" and a part timer on that shift can file and get paid double time for the hours the supe worked. There's new language for triple time pay as well.
    More of your garbage posting as usual.

    If the company refuses to staff the operation they are liable to pay for the hours they worked at a minimum of double time.

    Ever learn to read a CBA?
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2020