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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 2231231" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>I would assume that this is done anyway for every recording, so this stenographer is already paid with our dues money. They don't just convert it when someone wants a copy. So why rape the members that want a copy of the converted recordings when it has been paid for already? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is one of the problems. What's wrong with the members, who pay the officers, having access to grievance decisions, at all levels? Keep the members in the dark. Keeps them in line.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is your locals choice. It is not mandatory. That's what Recording Secretaries are for. Take notes during meetings and sessions.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I can imagine what a stenographer charges per month, but an optional expense your local decides to utilize. And your Stenographer is paid with our dues money and all your meetings and sessions are converted to print anyway, whether a member wants a copy or not. Make them available for a nominal copy fee.</p><p></p><p>And Stenographers are not utilized at hearings. Maybe after the fact, but they are already paid for with our dues money. And in this day and age, Stenographers are a waste of money. There are far cheaper and more advanced methods to get this done.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, sounds to me like it is transcribed anyway, and the Stenographer is already paid. A calculated expense. Why rape the members. It would be like a book author trying to recoup all his time and money through the price of one book.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never assumed you were.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you are saying that since a part-time employee cannot exercise his seniority and bump another part-time employee for overtime, that this part-time employee has the right to finish "his" work, that the union and company have decided that this also applies to them being able to finish their work even though there are full-time employees on the clock now?</p><p></p><p>I am not saying that it is right or wrong, but it is a big leap to correlate one to the other. Tell a full-time employee, who has started, that he cannot load his truck because a part-time employee has the right to finish his work.</p><p></p><p>This is either genius on the Companies part, or genius on the Unions part, pick your poison.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 2231231, member: 8481"] I would assume that this is done anyway for every recording, so this stenographer is already paid with our dues money. They don't just convert it when someone wants a copy. So why rape the members that want a copy of the converted recordings when it has been paid for already? And that is one of the problems. What's wrong with the members, who pay the officers, having access to grievance decisions, at all levels? Keep the members in the dark. Keeps them in line. That is your locals choice. It is not mandatory. That's what Recording Secretaries are for. Take notes during meetings and sessions. I can imagine what a stenographer charges per month, but an optional expense your local decides to utilize. And your Stenographer is paid with our dues money and all your meetings and sessions are converted to print anyway, whether a member wants a copy or not. Make them available for a nominal copy fee. And Stenographers are not utilized at hearings. Maybe after the fact, but they are already paid for with our dues money. And in this day and age, Stenographers are a waste of money. There are far cheaper and more advanced methods to get this done. Again, sounds to me like it is transcribed anyway, and the Stenographer is already paid. A calculated expense. Why rape the members. It would be like a book author trying to recoup all his time and money through the price of one book. Never assumed you were. So you are saying that since a part-time employee cannot exercise his seniority and bump another part-time employee for overtime, that this part-time employee has the right to finish "his" work, that the union and company have decided that this also applies to them being able to finish their work even though there are full-time employees on the clock now? I am not saying that it is right or wrong, but it is a big leap to correlate one to the other. Tell a full-time employee, who has started, that he cannot load his truck because a part-time employee has the right to finish his work. This is either genius on the Companies part, or genius on the Unions part, pick your poison. [/QUOTE]
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