Hey fellas, I'm a 8 year FT swing CDL/Haz vet with Express in the San Francisco Bay Area, and in the process of changing over to UPS. My background check will be complete next week and I've been told to expect to be in their courier class by by second week of September. I have a few questions and would especially like feedback from drivers in Bay Area or SF station specifically. FYI: I have clarified already with HR that this position is for FT PDD (not seasonal/temporary). 1. My understanding has always been UPS had a waiting list amongst internal employees for driving positions. Any ideas on why they are having to go outside for driver help? Note this is even rare for Fed Ex Express, though that is how I started 8 years ago with Fed Ex. 2. How would you rank current company morale? If you are from the SF station, how is morale and is their good mgmt-employee relationship? 3. Are you happy with the company and specifically your station and it's operations mgrs and senior mgr? 4. How do you feel about the construction of dlvry routes? Do you feel as if you have a say in their construction? In other words does your mgr listen to your input on rte construction or feedback? Just to give you a little info about me. I'm one of the rare Express drivers to start as a driver and from outside the company. I started in Dntwn LA as a swing driver. Within Fed Ex swing is the hardest position and gets paid slightly more than a reg driver. You start by learning a loop (24 rtes) generally and then branch out into other loops from there. You must have a CDL and a Haz endorsement. My Fed Ex experience has been both good and bad. I started at what I consider to be a disfunctional station (only 2 mgrs from my first 3 years at that station still work for company and this includes 2 senior mgrs) But since leaving that station my experience has been overall positive and I'm very happy with my current station and mgrs. I've worked at a total of 4 different stations, in three different cities, and have been a swing courier in all of them. I've worked high rise rtes of Dwntn LA, to rural rtes of Ojai (where you drive 100 miles a day), to total residential rtes of west LA, Malibu, and Santa Monica. I'm on the cusp of leaving a company I've grown fond of because of what I view as my financial best interest. I'm taking over a $3 initial pay cut, I'm losing 3 weeks vacation, and all seniority benefits. Why? Without going into specifics, because ultimately I will make all of this ground lost and far surpass where I would be with Express in 4 years. But with that said, how do you guys feel about your company because other than annual merit raise increases that I believe are completely inadequate. I'm happy with my station and it's mgrs. Money is important to me as well as the protection of my benefits a union can provide. But I don't think I want to leave a well run station, with good mgmt, and employees for one that is in turmoil. Looking to hear from drivers with various years of experience, with their thoughts on the company's current state of morale and employee-mgmt relations. Especially anyone who works out of SF. Thanks for reading my post.