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<blockquote data-quote="Livin the Dream?" data-source="post: 534032" data-attributes="member: 21891"><p>I never have defended FedEx.</p><p></p><p>My entire rant is with regards to the follower mentality, the sheep, who hear "The IC Model is wrong, we must destroy it to save those poor souls & make a level playing field" and they say baa, baa, that sounds right. Without looking at the facts.</p><p></p><p>I have never seen the FedEx IC contract. It sounds very difficult, it sounds like it is slanted towards the benefit of FedEx itself. It could be completely unfair for all I know, but that is not at all the point, nor do I care if it is or if it isn't; The point is is that it is legal.</p><p></p><p>My point has NEVER been we should use one model over another. It has never been US vs THEM. It has never been which one is better, which one is more fair. </p><p></p><p>My point HAS ALWAYS BEEN my dismay with UPS/Teamsters misinformation spread to all too many willing sheep, who then carry the torch saying "yeah, they are employees, FedEx is cheating, we need to save those workers, level the playing field" - people who should consider informing themselves of the simple facts, as simple as definitions of terms. Start with Independent Contractor. It appears 99% of those posting in opposition to this thread don't even know what that MEANS. How can you make an argument at all WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BASIS OF YOUR ARGUMENT IS???? Baa baa baa</p><p></p><p>Shoot. Back to the point. It bothers me that the Teamsters/UPS perpetuates the misinformed pitchfork & torch carriers to do this, when the only people it benefits is the UPS/Teamsters. It is self serving ONLY.</p><p></p><p>If the Teamsters/UPS came out & said the following up front -</p><p></p><p>"Yeah, we chose the <u>legal "PATH A"</u> to run our business, and FedEx chose the <u>legal "PATH B"</u> to run their business, and now it appears that "PATH B" is pretty advantagous over the course we took. Our Bad. We can't go back & change to "PATH B", or any other path for that matter, because we have the Union noose around our neck, so we are going to try & destroy/remove "PATH B".</p><p></p><p>That at least would be honest, simpler, and I would support it 100%.</p><p></p><p>I work at UPS. I want UPS to succeed. I'd like to think that we are a team, and that, as a team, we play fair. What I see is UPS/Teamsters lying to the troops before sending them into battle.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and as far as "having a horse in this race". pu-lease. ICs were around well before FedEx. And will be around well after. It simply is a valid, useful model. Are the other 10s of millions Independent contractors in the US also in on this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Livin the Dream?, post: 534032, member: 21891"] I never have defended FedEx. My entire rant is with regards to the follower mentality, the sheep, who hear "The IC Model is wrong, we must destroy it to save those poor souls & make a level playing field" and they say baa, baa, that sounds right. Without looking at the facts. I have never seen the FedEx IC contract. It sounds very difficult, it sounds like it is slanted towards the benefit of FedEx itself. It could be completely unfair for all I know, but that is not at all the point, nor do I care if it is or if it isn't; The point is is that it is legal. My point has NEVER been we should use one model over another. It has never been US vs THEM. It has never been which one is better, which one is more fair. My point HAS ALWAYS BEEN my dismay with UPS/Teamsters misinformation spread to all too many willing sheep, who then carry the torch saying "yeah, they are employees, FedEx is cheating, we need to save those workers, level the playing field" - people who should consider informing themselves of the simple facts, as simple as definitions of terms. Start with Independent Contractor. It appears 99% of those posting in opposition to this thread don't even know what that MEANS. How can you make an argument at all WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BASIS OF YOUR ARGUMENT IS???? Baa baa baa Shoot. Back to the point. It bothers me that the Teamsters/UPS perpetuates the misinformed pitchfork & torch carriers to do this, when the only people it benefits is the UPS/Teamsters. It is self serving ONLY. If the Teamsters/UPS came out & said the following up front - "Yeah, we chose the [U]legal "PATH A"[/U] to run our business, and FedEx chose the [U]legal "PATH B"[/U] to run their business, and now it appears that "PATH B" is pretty advantagous over the course we took. Our Bad. We can't go back & change to "PATH B", or any other path for that matter, because we have the Union noose around our neck, so we are going to try & destroy/remove "PATH B". That at least would be honest, simpler, and I would support it 100%. I work at UPS. I want UPS to succeed. I'd like to think that we are a team, and that, as a team, we play fair. What I see is UPS/Teamsters lying to the troops before sending them into battle. Oh, and as far as "having a horse in this race". pu-lease. ICs were around well before FedEx. And will be around well after. It simply is a valid, useful model. Are the other 10s of millions Independent contractors in the US also in on this? [/QUOTE]
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