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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 416275" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>For the purpose of preserving work and job opportunities for the employees covered by this agreement the employer agrees that no work or services of the kind type or nature including new operations ....... unless otherwise provided in this agreement. The employer may not subcontract work in any classification for the purpose of avoiding overtime. The employer may not subcontract work in any classification if any employee who normally performs such work is on layoff.</p><p> </p><p>Ok now the hard part. I am far from an expert on the contract. What I see as relevant is that UPSF is not a party to our contract. We have employees not on lay off. We have employees who have not reached the 60 hour DOT max. </p><p> </p><p>Am I correct in my thinking that since UPSF is not a party to our contract this would be sub contracting? Am I correct in my thinking that since we have employees on layoff this sub contracting would be in violation of the contract? Am I correct in my thinking that even if no one was on layoff if drivers had hours available this would still be in violation of the contract?</p><p> </p><p>Well according to the local I may not be correct. The bottom line to me is that I drive a truck and if UPS is hiring someone else to drive a truck it sure looks like subcontracting. </p><p> </p><p>Ok what if the customer requested that they be able to load trailers direct to other hubs for a reduced shipping rate? If our sales force is setting this service up for them why is this still not subcontracting. This in my limited knowledge of UPS ways appears to be the sticking point here. Why can our driver who are trained not do this work. I could maybe see if everyone was working some type of grace period to allow UPS to train new drivers and obtain new equipment. Honestly the more I get ran around with this the angrier I get. OK sorry to vent.</p><p> </p><p>What if it is UPS supply chain logistics that is hiring UPSF to pull these loads to other hubs? As far as I can tell they are not a party to our contract.</p><p> </p><p>Well after losing half my customers last week this week should be interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 416275, member: 8259"] For the purpose of preserving work and job opportunities for the employees covered by this agreement the employer agrees that no work or services of the kind type or nature including new operations ....... unless otherwise provided in this agreement. The employer may not subcontract work in any classification for the purpose of avoiding overtime. The employer may not subcontract work in any classification if any employee who normally performs such work is on layoff. Ok now the hard part. I am far from an expert on the contract. What I see as relevant is that UPSF is not a party to our contract. We have employees not on lay off. We have employees who have not reached the 60 hour DOT max. Am I correct in my thinking that since UPSF is not a party to our contract this would be sub contracting? Am I correct in my thinking that since we have employees on layoff this sub contracting would be in violation of the contract? Am I correct in my thinking that even if no one was on layoff if drivers had hours available this would still be in violation of the contract? Well according to the local I may not be correct. The bottom line to me is that I drive a truck and if UPS is hiring someone else to drive a truck it sure looks like subcontracting. Ok what if the customer requested that they be able to load trailers direct to other hubs for a reduced shipping rate? If our sales force is setting this service up for them why is this still not subcontracting. This in my limited knowledge of UPS ways appears to be the sticking point here. Why can our driver who are trained not do this work. I could maybe see if everyone was working some type of grace period to allow UPS to train new drivers and obtain new equipment. Honestly the more I get ran around with this the angrier I get. OK sorry to vent. What if it is UPS supply chain logistics that is hiring UPSF to pull these loads to other hubs? As far as I can tell they are not a party to our contract. Well after losing half my customers last week this week should be interesting. [/QUOTE]
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