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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 3076157" data-attributes="member: 66082"><p>On the other side, as far as I can tell you have people who have no stake in how the Baltimore or Ferguson or Chicago, or New York or any city local police departments treat black people in those places.</p><p></p><p>They are not black, don't live in those places, and don't particularly care about police misconduct and violence as a political issue, but they are insistent on a few things, number one that the police aren't racist, and that any claims of racism against the police must be disputed and fought. They also stress that in fact black people don't suffer mistreatment at the hands of the police more than "They deserve". And they are insistent that people are making an opportunistic political issue out of certain incidents to rile up hatred of police and that if they really cared, they'd focus on black on black crime. The people in the opposition's stake in this issue are difficult to discern because it appears that they have zero stake in it. I believe their stake in the issue is about maintaining power and maintaining a certain kind of system of policing that targets black people whom they believe are overly criminal, violent, and need to be controlled.</p><p></p><p>Because I come back to this same question over and over and over, why do you care? When I see debates about Ferguson or Baltimore.</p><p>If you aren't black, don't live in those cities, don't care about police mistreatment of black citizens, aren't serving on the police force, aren't the elected officials of those places, why does black citizens wanting accountability from their local police departments cause any thought other than that ain't about me?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 3076157, member: 66082"] On the other side, as far as I can tell you have people who have no stake in how the Baltimore or Ferguson or Chicago, or New York or any city local police departments treat black people in those places. They are not black, don't live in those places, and don't particularly care about police misconduct and violence as a political issue, but they are insistent on a few things, number one that the police aren't racist, and that any claims of racism against the police must be disputed and fought. They also stress that in fact black people don't suffer mistreatment at the hands of the police more than "They deserve". And they are insistent that people are making an opportunistic political issue out of certain incidents to rile up hatred of police and that if they really cared, they'd focus on black on black crime. The people in the opposition's stake in this issue are difficult to discern because it appears that they have zero stake in it. I believe their stake in the issue is about maintaining power and maintaining a certain kind of system of policing that targets black people whom they believe are overly criminal, violent, and need to be controlled. Because I come back to this same question over and over and over, why do you care? When I see debates about Ferguson or Baltimore. If you aren't black, don't live in those cities, don't care about police mistreatment of black citizens, aren't serving on the police force, aren't the elected officials of those places, why does black citizens wanting accountability from their local police departments cause any thought other than that ain't about me? [/QUOTE]
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