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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5511353" data-attributes="member: 24302">Plan to buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid.&nbsp; That means a car that has climate control that runs off its hybrid battery.&nbsp; Which means the car gas engine starts up and runs for a bit every so often to top off the battery.&nbsp; Less than half a gallon in 8 hrs.&nbsp; So it can be 100° out and still be comfortable.&nbsp; Except I&#039;ll be in high country in the summer where it will be cooler.&nbsp; And dry air.Will be camping fulltime in New Mexico state parks.&nbsp; They have showers and are kept up.&nbsp; With the $225 annual pass can camp for free in many of those parks if I don&#039;t need electricity.&nbsp; Can charge battery pack with the hybrid and use that to run lights and fan in my camper.&nbsp; If too hot will get an electric site to run air conditioner in my camper.Ever hear of Runaway Campers?&nbsp; Very light, empty box.&nbsp; Smallest one 4&#039;X8&#039; and weighs less than 600 lbs.&nbsp; Corolla has a 1500 lb tow rating.&nbsp; Camper has a 5000 btu ac and electrical outlet.&nbsp; Can boondock with it on BLM land with a portable generator if need to.There&#039;s more than one way to skin a cat.&nbsp; And I didn&#039;t invent all this.&nbsp; It&#039;s a well trodden path.&nbsp; What happens if I absolutely can&#039;t find a space at a state park?&nbsp; I do no hookup camping there. &quot;Primitive&quot; camping.&nbsp; Still have access to showers and toilets and potable water and trash dumping.I know a town that has a number of RV parks.&nbsp; You don&#039;t have to move about in a RV.&nbsp; You can just park it and pay a monthly rate.&nbsp; Best park in this town charges $375 a month plus electric.&nbsp; Excellent wifi, 70 channel cable, water and trash included.&nbsp; Very nice laundry room.&nbsp; Social activities if you want.&nbsp; Less than a mile to Walmart.&nbsp; If I go that route, which I might when I get older, I&#039;ll buy a nice size travel trailer.&nbsp; Among other parks in that town is a more basic one that still includes cable, water, and trash and charges $225 A month plus electric.&nbsp; In Las Cruces it&#039;s more expensive but can still find very nice park for $450 a month plus electric and has all the amenities.&nbsp; Can do without a car there and use the bus system.&nbsp; $30 a month unlimited riding.What you don&#039;t know is I went many years without a car.&nbsp; Walked, biked, rode a scooter for years.&nbsp; I lived in 7 different RV parks over a 12 year span in a 26&#039; travel trailer.&nbsp; Paid people to move it for me.&nbsp; None of what you&#039;re saying is so.&nbsp; You&#039;re making assumptions.&nbsp; And you&#039;re wrong.&nbsp; Is it perfect?&nbsp; No, there are drawbacks just as there are for anything.&nbsp; But geez man, men used to ride all over the West carrying only what their horse could handle.&nbsp; People rode in covered wagons for months to get to Oregon.&nbsp; What I&#039;m going to do is no big deal in comparison.&nbsp; Not even close.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5511353, member: 24302"] Plan to buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid. That means a car that has climate control that runs off its hybrid battery. Which means the car gas engine starts up and runs for a bit every so often to top off the battery. Less than half a gallon in 8 hrs. So it can be 100° out and still be comfortable. Except I'll be in high country in the summer where it will be cooler. And dry air. Will be camping fulltime in New Mexico state parks. They have showers and are kept up. With the $225 annual pass can camp for free in many of those parks if I don't need electricity. Can charge battery pack with the hybrid and use that to run lights and fan in my camper. If too hot will get an electric site to run air conditioner in my camper. Ever hear of Runaway Campers? Very light, empty box. Smallest one 4'X8' and weighs less than 600 lbs. Corolla has a 1500 lb tow rating. Camper has a 5000 btu ac and electrical outlet. Can boondock with it on BLM land with a portable generator if need to. There's more than one way to skin a cat. And I didn't invent all this. It's a well trodden path. What happens if I absolutely can't find a space at a state park? I do no hookup camping there. "Primitive" camping. Still have access to showers and toilets and potable water and trash dumping. I know a town that has a number of RV parks. You don't have to move about in a RV. You can just park it and pay a monthly rate. Best park in this town charges $375 a month plus electric. Excellent wifi, 70 channel cable, water and trash included. Very nice laundry room. Social activities if you want. Less than a mile to Walmart. If I go that route, which I might when I get older, I'll buy a nice size travel trailer. Among other parks in that town is a more basic one that still includes cable, water, and trash and charges $225 A month plus electric. In Las Cruces it's more expensive but can still find very nice park for $450 a month plus electric and has all the amenities. Can do without a car there and use the bus system. $30 a month unlimited riding. What you don't know is I went many years without a car. Walked, biked, rode a scooter for years. I lived in 7 different RV parks over a 12 year span in a 26' travel trailer. Paid people to move it for me. None of what you're saying is so. You're making assumptions. And you're wrong. Is it perfect? No, there are drawbacks just as there are for anything. But geez man, men used to ride all over the West carrying only what their horse could handle. People rode in covered wagons for months to get to Oregon. What I'm going to do is no big deal in comparison. Not even close. [/QUOTE]

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