First grievance

[AndUPSER]

Okay, so my building was having a Sunday sort today. I signed the intent sheet, which said part time employees on the preload, day, twilight and night sorts....

So I recently switched to preload from twilight for educational and family reasons. I submitted my intent in January and had to wait until June to switch. The twilight manager kept me until I got the union involved and finally let me go to preload. During this time, two employees switched to preload with lower seniority. The twilight manager was pretty mad at me at the time when I switched.

Anyway, back to today. Showed up at 11:45 for the 12:00 start time. FT sup told me where to report and thanked me for coming in. Then the manager saw me and told me to go home, no preloaders are allowed. I was like, uh what?

Instead of going home I went straight to the union hall, 5 minutes away, and talked to the BA and got some grievance forms. I am going back tomorrow to turn them in.

Anyway, my question is can they deny me working extra just because I'm on preload? The BA said it was a bunch of bull and they try to pull this a lot. Also, employees with less seniority was working. Should this be a pretty easy case to win?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Okay, so my building was having a Sunday sort today. I signed the intent sheet, which said part time employees on the preload, day, twilight and night sorts....

So I recently switched to preload from twilight for educational and family reasons. I submitted my intent in January and had to wait until June to switch. The twilight manager kept me until I got the union involved and finally let me go to preload. During this time, two employees switched to preload with lower seniority. The twilight manager was pretty mad at me at the time when I switched.

Anyway, back to today. Showed up at 11:45 for the 12:00 start time. FT sup told me where to report and thanked me for coming in. Then the manager saw me and told me to go home, no preloaders are allowed. I was like, uh what?

Instead of going home I went straight to the union hall, 5 minutes away, and talked to the BA and got some grievance forms. I am going back tomorrow to turn them in.

Anyway, my question is can they deny me working extra just because I'm on preload? The BA said it was a bunch of bull and they try to pull this a lot. Also, employees with less seniority was working. Should this be a pretty easy case to win?

Should go by seniority,but what do I know!

Good luck to you.

File early and often!

 

[AndUPSER]

Should go by seniority,but what do I know!

Good luck to you.

File early and often!

They didn't even have to go by seniority order since not enough signed up. People with 2 months seniority were working.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They didn't even have to go by seniority order since not enough signed up. People with 2 months seniority were working.

File and dont back down!
Thats your money,they are stealing from you!

 

[AndUPSER]

File and dont back down!
Thats your money,they are stealing from you!

Trust me I won't back down. I just hope the union didn't make some kind of deal saying no preloaders.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Trust me I won't back down. I just hope the union didn't make some kind of deal saying no preloaders.

Talk to your union steward first.
If you do not get a good answer,call the union hall!

UPS loves to play games,with this stuff!

 

[AndUPSER]

Talk to your union steward first.
If you do not get a good answer,call the union hall!

UPS loves to play games,with this stuff!

I already went down to the union hall and talked to the BA for a minute. He said they are trying to pull the "nobody from preload is allowed to work" on other sorts or on Sunday's. Any PTers have this happening in their buildings?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

They didn't even have to go by seniority order since not enough signed up. People with 2 months seniority were working.

Did any preloaders work that sort...or were they all from twilight?

 

[AndUPSER]

Did any preloaders work that sort...or were they all from twilight?

There was only a couple of people there and they were day, twilight and night employees. I'm in a secluded area on preload, loading trailers, so I really don't know many people on preload yet.

Still, the intent sheet said all part time employees on preload, day, twilight and night...

 

[bleedinbrown58]

There was only a couple of people there and they were day, twilight and night employees. I'm in a secluded area on preload, loading trailers, so I really don't know many people on preload yet.

Still, the intent sheet said all part time employees on preload, day, twilight and night...

not sure....whenever my building runs an extra Saturday sort...it's preloaders only by seniority....no twilight.

 

[AndUPSER]

not sure....whenever my building runs an extra Saturday sort...it's preloaders only by seniority.

But I assume that is for loading package cars, which local sort employees are not qualified to do.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Years ago preloaders could not work in the hub until all hub employees were exhausted. Working out of classification. That has since changed to using a building seniority list for extra work.

 

[AndUPSER]

Years ago preloaders could not work in the hub until all hub employees were exhausted. Working out of classification. That has since changed to using a building seniority list for extra work.

I've heard the same you have posted. I have had no problem double shifting in the hub on Monday's.

 

[PT Car Washer]

The last time the hub overlooked my name for double shifting I did not even have to file. Labor manager just paid me.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Your BA was at the hall on a Sunday?


Resident know-it-all.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Your BA was at the hall on a Sunday?


Resident know-it-all.

Maybe...not everyone has a rockin social calendar like you!

 

[AndUPSER]

Your BA was at the hall on a Sunday?


Resident know-it-all.

Yes. My local has union meetings on Sunday during the summer.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yes. My local has union meetings on Sunday during the summer.

...but, as a rule, he normally wouldn't be there, right?

Our local normally suspends the meetings during the summer months.


Resident know-it-all.

 

[AndUPSER]

Yes. My local has union meetings during the summer.

...but, as a rule, he normally wouldn't be there, right?

Our local normally suspends the meetings during the summer months.


Resident know-it-all.

Yes, normally he wouldn't be there on a Sunday.

Usually my local "went dark" during the summer months but they decided to have a meeting once a month on a Sunday during the Summer.

 

[Anonymous 11]

Okay, so my building was having a Sunday sort today. I signed the intent sheet, which said part time employees on the preload, day, twilight and night sorts....

So I recently switched to preload from twilight for educational and family reasons. I submitted my intent in January and had to wait until June to switch. The twilight manager kept me until I got the union involved and finally let me go to preload. During this time, two employees switched to preload with lower seniority. The twilight manager was pretty mad at me at the time when I switched.

Anyway, back to today. Showed up at 11:45 for the 12:00 start time. FT sup told me where to report and thanked me for coming in. Then the manager saw me and told me to go home, no preloaders are allowed. I was like, uh what?

Instead of going home I went straight to the union hall, 5 minutes away, and talked to the BA and got some grievance forms. I am going back tomorrow to turn them in.

Anyway, my question is can they deny me working extra just because I'm on preload? The BA said it was a bunch of bull and they try to pull this a lot. Also, employees with less seniority was working. Should this be a pretty easy case to win?

Why are you asking us your business agent practically said its a slam dunk. Grieve it and get paid. Next time you pass that manager give him a big smile and say what up guy.