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<blockquote data-quote="Overpaid Union Thug" data-source="post: 1552885" data-attributes="member: 198"><p>So far no discipline in our center. Just the usual whining about us needing to look at the computer to see the path to our first stop. They seem to think that if we meticulously follow that first path it will magically negate all of the silliness ORION causes throughout the rest of the day. Well, the silliness those that actually follow it experiences. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>There are 5 schools of thought for ORION:</p><p></p><p>#1 be gutless and follow it no matter how silly and dangerous it is and hope you don't back into something or someone</p><p></p><p>#2 follow it at 100% just to stick it to your employer if you get off on that sort of thing</p><p></p><p>#3 follow it at 100% just to pad your bank account, which it will on most routes</p><p></p><p>#4 follow it when it makes sense but shut if off when it doesn't (sometimes this is a headache)</p><p></p><p>#5 stay in EDD all day and run over the ORION miles but still hit 85% (or more) on most routes</p><p></p><p>On my route I have been bouncing back and forth between #4 and #5.</p><p></p><p>The key to ORION working (saving miles and running 85% or more trace) is being willing and/or able to back in <u><strong>ALL</strong></u> of the driveways that ORION wants you to. Even if you are 3/4 of the way down a dead end road with a nice big turnaround in sight. And even then many people still don't hit the miles ORION wants. And backing in driveways isn't always an option. It's unsafe or blocked by a vehicle, garbage cans, etc..</p><p></p><p>There are many areas in any town or city that are big and complex enough to make it impossible to know exactly where ORION wants you to go next at after any given stop. Sometimes you will look at your next 8 stops in ORION and won't have the slightest clue as to what the exact route for those 8 stops should be. If you deviate even the slightest bit at any point it throws the whole thing off. For example....if your third stop in a neighborhood is approached from the wrong direction then you won't match ORIONs path. And how are you supposed to know all of this you ask? You can't. And that's why it's not your, or anyone else's, fault if we can't match ORION's plans. Until UPS puts maps in our DIADs that show our paths that ORION has created for us we will never know exactly stop per stop which way to go.</p><p></p><p>For these reasons any discipline won't stick. If they tell you to follow ORION at least 85% on trace and work as directed then what you could do is stop and send a message in the DIAD whenever you aren't sure where to go next. Say you need detailed turn by turn directions to stay on trace and stay compliant on your miles. After about the 5th message and seeing that you are 45 minutes behind they will back off. I guarantee it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Overpaid Union Thug, post: 1552885, member: 198"] So far no discipline in our center. Just the usual whining about us needing to look at the computer to see the path to our first stop. They seem to think that if we meticulously follow that first path it will magically negate all of the silliness ORION causes throughout the rest of the day. Well, the silliness those that actually follow it experiences. :) There are 5 schools of thought for ORION: #1 be gutless and follow it no matter how silly and dangerous it is and hope you don't back into something or someone #2 follow it at 100% just to stick it to your employer if you get off on that sort of thing #3 follow it at 100% just to pad your bank account, which it will on most routes #4 follow it when it makes sense but shut if off when it doesn't (sometimes this is a headache) #5 stay in EDD all day and run over the ORION miles but still hit 85% (or more) on most routes On my route I have been bouncing back and forth between #4 and #5. The key to ORION working (saving miles and running 85% or more trace) is being willing and/or able to back in [U][B]ALL[/B][/U] of the driveways that ORION wants you to. Even if you are 3/4 of the way down a dead end road with a nice big turnaround in sight. And even then many people still don't hit the miles ORION wants. And backing in driveways isn't always an option. It's unsafe or blocked by a vehicle, garbage cans, etc.. There are many areas in any town or city that are big and complex enough to make it impossible to know exactly where ORION wants you to go next at after any given stop. Sometimes you will look at your next 8 stops in ORION and won't have the slightest clue as to what the exact route for those 8 stops should be. If you deviate even the slightest bit at any point it throws the whole thing off. For example....if your third stop in a neighborhood is approached from the wrong direction then you won't match ORIONs path. And how are you supposed to know all of this you ask? You can't. And that's why it's not your, or anyone else's, fault if we can't match ORION's plans. Until UPS puts maps in our DIADs that show our paths that ORION has created for us we will never know exactly stop per stop which way to go. For these reasons any discipline won't stick. If they tell you to follow ORION at least 85% on trace and work as directed then what you could do is stop and send a message in the DIAD whenever you aren't sure where to go next. Say you need detailed turn by turn directions to stay on trace and stay compliant on your miles. After about the 5th message and seeing that you are 45 minutes behind they will back off. I guarantee it. [/QUOTE]
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