Former D.O.J. attorney on Voter Intimidation

Babagounj

Strength through joy
why those nice young men were only trying to protect that voting place from all those radical racists. You can not blame them for doing a job that our federal government would not do.:wink2:
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
The New Black Panther Party for Self Defense (NBPP) is the largest organized anti-Semitic and racist black militant group in America. The group is led by Malik Zulu Shabazz, a Washington, DC-based attorney who has been active with the NBPP since the mid-1990s.

By taking on racially-charged issues under the guise of championing civil rights, the NBPP has received national media attention for its efforts, garnered some support from prominent members of the African-American community and attracted followers. The group's demonstrations, conferences, and other events often blend inflammatory bigotry with calls for violence, tarnishing its efforts to promote black pride and consciousness.
The NBPP's divisive positions have been condemned by members of the original Black Panthers. Co-founder Bobby Seale believes that the NBPP has "hijacked our name and are hijacking our history."
David Hilliard, a former Panther and executive director of the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, has said that the racism that the group "espouse(s) flies directly in the face of the Black Panthers' multicultural ideology and purpose."
The NBPP continues to use the Panther name and logo in spite of a permanent injunction prohibiting them from using either, which the original Panthers obtained in May 1997.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Memo from the Black Panther Party to the New Black Panther Party: “There Is No New Black Panther Party”

There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation
In response from numerous requests from individual’s [sic] seeking information on the “New Black Panthers,” the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group’s exploitation of the Party’s name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party’s name upon itself, which we condemn.
Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party’s name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party’s true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party’s banner.
Secondly, they denigrate the Party’s name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it. The Party’s fundamental principle, as best articulated by the great revolutionary Ernesto “Che” Guevara, was: “A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.” The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the “white establishment.” The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
Republican 22nd Congressional Candidate Allen West Statement on New Black Panther Party


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 08th, 2010
(Deerfield Beach, FL) "The recent decision by the Obama Justice Department to drop all charges of voter intimidation against the New Black Panther Party during the 2008 Election represents a sad day for all Americans. For an Administration that promised a new era in race relations, Obama and the Democrats in Congress have demonstrated that race will continually be exploited for political gain. It is outright hypocrisy that the Justice Department under Attorney General Holder is suing a sovereign American State, yet dismissing this heinous violation of our Constitution - the right to vote.
Throughout history, the Democrat party has been the standard bearer of voter intimidation in America - only this time the once victim is now the perpetrator.
The recent comments and actions of the New Black Panther Party are despicable, disgusting, and completely reprehensible. It is with no reservation that I make a formal condemnation of this racist and extremist group, which is anathema to the principles and values that make America a great Nation. For those who would define our country as a "nation of cowards," or who feel the United States is neither great nor exceptional, and to any other racist and extremist groups, feel free to show yourselves the door.
As a young black man who grew up in the inner city of Atlanta, my Mom and Dad taught me that which is presented in the Declaration of Independence - that all men are created equal. I was taught - and I have taught my children - that there is no such thing as an African American or Black American, only American. That there is only one true race - the Human race. That the only colors that matter in this country are Red, White and Blue. That, as a Constitutional Republic, the rule of law is paramount in binding us as a Nation.
Throughout our Congressional campaign's endeavor to restore honor, integrity, and character to the US House of Representatives, I have been called many things by some black Americans - token, Uncle Tom, sellout, oreo cookie, and many others. And the so-called leaders of the black movement - mainly those in the Congressional Black Caucus - have remained silent in their condemnation of these race-baiting critics.
The dye has been cast in this election cycle - Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Party and the placement of it, along with any extremist group, onto the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter."

http://allenwestforcongress.com/blo...-allen-west-statement-new-black-panther-party
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Memo from the Black Panther Party to the New Black Panther Party: “There Is No New Black Panther Party”

There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation
In response from numerous requests from individual’s [sic] seeking information on the “New Black Panthers,” the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group’s exploitation of the Party’s name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party’s name upon itself, which we condemn.
Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party’s name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party’s true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party’s banner.
Secondly, they denigrate the Party’s name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it. The Party’s fundamental principle, as best articulated by the great revolutionary Ernesto “Che” Guevara, was: “A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.” The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the “white establishment.” The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.

I'm glad you posted that Baba because there is a stark contrasting difference IMO of the original BP movement and the NBP movement of today although in fairness I hold a big gain of salt because of past COINTELPRO actions by the State.

The original BP movement was influenced by 1960's events and Macolm X but all were direct descendents of Booker T. Washington and Marcus Garvey who rightly pointed out the pure lack of self autonomy and independence (political, social and economic) the black community had and their desire for a type localism where they controlled events, actions and community at the local level. Move aside race and party politics and a lot of what the tea party advocates today is very similar in localist type to what the heritage of the black freedom movement is/was all about IMO. Maybe framed different but the same issues and concerns are much at heart of what was said in both movements.

For those who are really for smaller/less gov't especially at the larger, far away level, put aside the stirred up fears generated by the likes of Hoover and of manical, power driven whites who only wanted to use the fear to quash another freedom movement away from the super state and at least look at some of the actual history. Is that any different from allegations of spying and threatneing intervention by the Federal State on the Tea Party movement or even actions of provocatuers to put a movement in a bad light? Does this sound familar folks? Wonder where they first learned how to do it?

I'm not saying you'll agree across the board with the original BP movement but you'll at least begin to appreciate where they were actually coming from and also get past the lie that all they wanted to do was take over elections to get a welfare check, as some of you may think that is the case. A lot of those leaders preached against such slavery (that's what they called gov't cheese) and advocated getting an education or trade skill and becoming small business people and tradesmen. Does that not have a good familar ring to it?

What Was The Black Panther Party


Here's a great discussion with Huey Newton which sadly as I can find so far only this 5 minutes exists on the net.






Righteous down home peoples power is what I advocated in the sixties, and what I say today. That is, "...toward a future world of cooperational humanism!" Beyond the myopic notions and strict doctrinaire ideologies of past "politburo" state control command economy socialism. More important let's get beyond the present extremist practices of avaricious racist corporate monopoly globalizing capitalism having evolved a system which concentrates 90% of all the political-economic power in to the hands of the one percent cooperate money-rich around this OUR earth.
Democracy? HOW ABOUT Greater constitutional "direct" democracy? i.e. greater peoples' decision making participatory Community Control democracy? This form has a greater three dimensional democratic character. A true peoples' democratic synthesis are ideas to begin to get creative with. "All power to all the people," was my BPP sixties creative protest demand.


Who said that? Some limited gov't/libertarian type tea partier who wants to vastly cut down the size of the state?

None other than Bobby Seale himself directly off his website!

Stop being a zombie to a narrative created by the state itself and actually go out and talk to people directly and you'll be shocked on how much common ground we 90%ers actually have with one another.

:peaceful:

Community Control Democracy doesn't sound like big gov't Washington to me at all. How many tea partiers are screaming for local control as well?
 

fxdwg

Long Time Member
It seems to me that once Baba and Lue jump into a thread it goes haywire and way to the right.
I live right but:.....:These guy are nuts"............:sick:
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Lots of people are upset about the direction this country is taking. It's not being nuts, it's being passionate! If you don't have passion about your beliefs, then you are luke-warm.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
It seems to me that once Baba and Lue jump into a thread it goes haywire and way to the right.
I live right but:.....:These guy are nuts"............:sick:

Or you can be so blindly "Left wing" like Deez and BB that no matter what Obama say or does he is still the Messiah and cant do no wrong.:wink2:
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
There are some people who are so Obama-ized that they'll support him even if he's doing a lousy job....or no job at all.
 
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