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Founders Day 2009~ What is the Status of the Management "Partnership"
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<blockquote data-quote="pretzel_man" data-source="post: 594265" data-attributes="member: 927"><p>I'm not sure how to respond.....</p><p> </p><p>I also met Gerstner. Just once, and a while ago. I met Davis and most of the management committee also.</p><p> </p><p>This started because of the belief that since Davis wasn't a driver, he couldn't be a good CEO. I used Gerstner as an example that one doesn't need to grow up in a company to positively influence it.</p><p> </p><p>Is Davis as good as Gerstner? I doubt it. On the other hand, he is a fine man and from my perspective a good leader.</p><p> </p><p>You mention the report back. I heard that line. It was Alan Hill I believe. As I recall, before saying "everything is on the table", he also said he doesn't expect layoffs in management or pension changes. I heard it as "if things don't go as planned, then everything is on the table."</p><p> </p><p>To your 12 year question... I do NOT believe management would be as gung ho today as then. However, its for a different reason than you have.</p><p> </p><p>Management today have not seen the growth in the company in the last 12 years. No growth in opportunity. No growth in stock. 12 years ago, we felt ownership in this organization and what hurt the organization hurt us personally.</p><p> </p><p>The lack of growth is what is missing. That is the cause of lack of ownership and allegiance to the organization, not the current leaders. Oz Nelson was not the strongest leader in the world, and he was there leading up to 1997.</p><p> </p><p>The management committe is doing what they think is needed to help the stock grow. This is exactly what I believe is the cause of our dilemma. </p><p> </p><p>We need our volume back. We need to grow. This will make the hard work worthwhile. This is how we felt before.</p><p> </p><p>P-Man</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pretzel_man, post: 594265, member: 927"] I'm not sure how to respond..... I also met Gerstner. Just once, and a while ago. I met Davis and most of the management committee also. This started because of the belief that since Davis wasn't a driver, he couldn't be a good CEO. I used Gerstner as an example that one doesn't need to grow up in a company to positively influence it. Is Davis as good as Gerstner? I doubt it. On the other hand, he is a fine man and from my perspective a good leader. You mention the report back. I heard that line. It was Alan Hill I believe. As I recall, before saying "everything is on the table", he also said he doesn't expect layoffs in management or pension changes. I heard it as "if things don't go as planned, then everything is on the table." To your 12 year question... I do NOT believe management would be as gung ho today as then. However, its for a different reason than you have. Management today have not seen the growth in the company in the last 12 years. No growth in opportunity. No growth in stock. 12 years ago, we felt ownership in this organization and what hurt the organization hurt us personally. The lack of growth is what is missing. That is the cause of lack of ownership and allegiance to the organization, not the current leaders. Oz Nelson was not the strongest leader in the world, and he was there leading up to 1997. The management committe is doing what they think is needed to help the stock grow. This is exactly what I believe is the cause of our dilemma. We need our volume back. We need to grow. This will make the hard work worthwhile. This is how we felt before. P-Man [/QUOTE]
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