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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1407157" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Oh i see, your a reformer. By assuming some union position, you are going to change the way congress does business and effect change in laws.</p><p></p><p>Ok, now i get it, your clueless. Sorry, for a second, I gave you credit for having somewhat knowledge of how things worked in politics.</p><p></p><p>You are going to change the face of congress, get people elected to rally to your cause, and thereby effecting legislative change.</p><p></p><p>Dont be a goof. You basement union types are so full of crap its not even funny. </p><p></p><p>Here's a hint. TO effect legislative change, to suit your "wishlist", the democrats would have to control the house, the senate and the white house.</p><p></p><p>The dems lost the house in 2010, all the yelling, kicking and screaming you could possibly do from your TDU basement would make ZERO difference in the outcomes of legislative votes on the hill.</p><p></p><p>What you listed in your "wishlist" are simply undoable in todays poltical climate. The GOP controls the house, and the GOP can block bills in the senate making effective change impossible.</p><p></p><p>What do you propose to want to do, stand on the street corners and shake your fists?</p><p></p><p>Who outside your circle of influence do you think gives a crap what you think?</p><p></p><p>Wages have been driving down for decades. Low skilled immigrant workers are to blame for this. RTW states, or RED states will always punish the american worker with low wages and near nothing benefits.</p><p></p><p>Outsourcing of jobs has been going on since 1980 and the Reagan revolution. Wall street has insured jobs to be sent overseas. Heck, TV shows, like Shark Tank promote MOVING a business concept to china in order to secure start up money.</p><p></p><p>There is no PRIDE in american products anymore. Americans dont have PRIDE either. They LOVE the chinese crap they buy for cheap prices. They could care less if 10 year old chinese kids are taken from homes and placed in work camps making shoes and clothing or straw hats.</p><p></p><p>You think moreluck gives a crap who makes her tv dinner trays while she is watching fox news?? All she cares about is paying near nothing for chinese crap like every other american.</p><p></p><p>How do you propose to change this mindset? Again, Standing in the street shaking your fist??</p><p></p><p>The key to your post is simple, you said :</p><p></p><p>"Don't know anything about Galvin & don't know much about 396...just what I've read on here over the years. "</p><p></p><p>This sez it all.</p><p></p><p>Why are you involving yourself in an issue that doesnt affect you?</p><p></p><p>G has zero experience running a local. He was horrible as a business agent. He managed to get himself and our other agents tossed out of yards with his outrageous behaviors while on property, he managed to get shop stewards fired with terminations that stuck with "bad advice" on how to act on the shop floor. </p><p></p><p>What you dont understand is his motivations. TDU needed someone they could put their hands so far up their rectums, they could actually move a persons jaw.</p><p></p><p>G fit that bill.</p><p></p><p>Any other person, after getting stomped on like a flaming paper bag full of dog poop would have stepped aside after the last election and allowed the membership to find someone else to lead the local.</p><p></p><p>But no, Not G, he has TDU blowing non DEF smoke up his rear end constantly that he cant see the forest from the trees. TDU isnt about give up on trying to take over local 396, they gonna tell him everything he wants to hear.</p><p></p><p>How do i know? Simple, they approached me first. Tom L, a TDU member, and I spoke on several occasions, I respectfully declined the invitation. Let me be clear, TDU has some good qualities as I have stated before, but I dont like "some"of the people involved with the organization. Not that it matters who they are.</p><p></p><p>G is in this election for G. Illusions of grandeur have captivated his thought process.. The promises of TDU brass for helping him in this election, all the while "pretending" not to be TDU for fear that the 396 rank and file will discard him like yesterdays newspaper.</p><p></p><p>You have a lot to learn about union politics and so do 396 TDU'ers who believe otherwise.</p><p></p><p>As far as sanitation, its not my arena, the local has its personnel to deal with that. Is it going well? Probably not, but my concerns are for my UPS brothers and sisters first.</p><p></p><p>We have bigger problems on the horizon, and we need strong people with professional attitudes and working relationships that work. </p><p></p><p>Banging your hand on the desk doesnt work in 2014.</p><p></p><p>Get that through your head.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1407157, member: 17969"] Oh i see, your a reformer. By assuming some union position, you are going to change the way congress does business and effect change in laws. Ok, now i get it, your clueless. Sorry, for a second, I gave you credit for having somewhat knowledge of how things worked in politics. You are going to change the face of congress, get people elected to rally to your cause, and thereby effecting legislative change. Dont be a goof. You basement union types are so full of crap its not even funny. Here's a hint. TO effect legislative change, to suit your "wishlist", the democrats would have to control the house, the senate and the white house. The dems lost the house in 2010, all the yelling, kicking and screaming you could possibly do from your TDU basement would make ZERO difference in the outcomes of legislative votes on the hill. What you listed in your "wishlist" are simply undoable in todays poltical climate. The GOP controls the house, and the GOP can block bills in the senate making effective change impossible. What do you propose to want to do, stand on the street corners and shake your fists? Who outside your circle of influence do you think gives a crap what you think? Wages have been driving down for decades. Low skilled immigrant workers are to blame for this. RTW states, or RED states will always punish the american worker with low wages and near nothing benefits. Outsourcing of jobs has been going on since 1980 and the Reagan revolution. Wall street has insured jobs to be sent overseas. Heck, TV shows, like Shark Tank promote MOVING a business concept to china in order to secure start up money. There is no PRIDE in american products anymore. Americans dont have PRIDE either. They LOVE the chinese crap they buy for cheap prices. They could care less if 10 year old chinese kids are taken from homes and placed in work camps making shoes and clothing or straw hats. You think moreluck gives a crap who makes her tv dinner trays while she is watching fox news?? All she cares about is paying near nothing for chinese crap like every other american. How do you propose to change this mindset? Again, Standing in the street shaking your fist?? The key to your post is simple, you said : "Don't know anything about Galvin & don't know much about 396...just what I've read on here over the years. " This sez it all. Why are you involving yourself in an issue that doesnt affect you? G has zero experience running a local. He was horrible as a business agent. He managed to get himself and our other agents tossed out of yards with his outrageous behaviors while on property, he managed to get shop stewards fired with terminations that stuck with "bad advice" on how to act on the shop floor. What you dont understand is his motivations. TDU needed someone they could put their hands so far up their rectums, they could actually move a persons jaw. G fit that bill. Any other person, after getting stomped on like a flaming paper bag full of dog poop would have stepped aside after the last election and allowed the membership to find someone else to lead the local. But no, Not G, he has TDU blowing non DEF smoke up his rear end constantly that he cant see the forest from the trees. TDU isnt about give up on trying to take over local 396, they gonna tell him everything he wants to hear. How do i know? Simple, they approached me first. Tom L, a TDU member, and I spoke on several occasions, I respectfully declined the invitation. Let me be clear, TDU has some good qualities as I have stated before, but I dont like "some"of the people involved with the organization. Not that it matters who they are. G is in this election for G. Illusions of grandeur have captivated his thought process.. The promises of TDU brass for helping him in this election, all the while "pretending" not to be TDU for fear that the 396 rank and file will discard him like yesterdays newspaper. You have a lot to learn about union politics and so do 396 TDU'ers who believe otherwise. As far as sanitation, its not my arena, the local has its personnel to deal with that. Is it going well? Probably not, but my concerns are for my UPS brothers and sisters first. We have bigger problems on the horizon, and we need strong people with professional attitudes and working relationships that work. Banging your hand on the desk doesnt work in 2014. Get that through your head. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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