Fundamental Services provided by Governments - Local, State, National

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Old Man Jingles, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Local - Schools, Police, Fire Dept
    State - Criminal laws,
    National - Court for cases between States, Protect the Homeland - Military, Laws that affect US citizens across State Political borders

    Those are the only FUNDAMENTAL responsibilities/services that I can come up with.

    Any more I missed?
  2. Sportello

    Sportello l'etat, c'est moi

    I would say infrastructure, which is pretty important.
  3. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Yeah ... makes sense ... but what infrastructure?
    Local Government - Sewers, roads, ???
    States - ???
    National - ???

    What else?
  4. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Contract enforcement and other civil law enforcement.

    As for infrastructure, there's a reason road systems are divvied up between different levels of government. Many cities have trouble affording maintenance on their surface roads as it is, so the counties and states handle county and state roads and highways, overpasses and bridges. I'm not sure if the federal government maintains the interstate highway systems or if they leave it to the states.

    More libertarian-minded folks will argue that private companies can handle infrastructure and do it better, but I don't see that happening.

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  6. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Not only NO
    But HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Except Medicare
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    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Medicare. Ttku old man.
  8. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Does medicare count as healthcare? Or is it government run health insurance? I always think of healthcare as the organizations and individuals that provide the care, and insurance makes everything more complicated and expensive.
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    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Same difference as all those other services listed.
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  10. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    The only one I can see that being the case is for some infrastructure. Everything else is run by government employees and elected/appointed representatives. Even some infrastructure, like dams, are built and maintained by the army corps of engineers.

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Nope. Everyone of those have contractors that aren't government employees.
  12. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    Roads get put under Local, County,State and Federal. It all depends on how they are constructed. Weight limit classifications are what determines who builds and maintains them. At the Townboard meeting the other night it was brought up that the Township had received their share of tax money from the County ($250,000)-- so now the Township can re-due 2 more miles of asphalt road this summer.
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  13. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Having contractors that support their mission doesn't really make them equal with the relationship between healthcare and insurance. But I can see your point.
  14. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    In my experience, private companies have always done the work and for the most part, managed or co-managed the build out phase.
  15. refineryworker05

    refineryworker05 Active Member

    The American social contract between the American government was written by Thomas Jefferson the line about inalienable rights life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    Basically, as citizens we give up freedom to do whatever we want to be subservient to the laws of our nation.

    In exchange, our nation forms a social contract with each citizen to work to benefit us.

    Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are huge concepts that really does entail a government meant to help each citizen in those areas and that's big.

    There will be disagreements about what big means in terms of government services, but really I haven't meet any people who actually disagree about what the government should be doing to help Americans.

    The real disagreement in American politics is over "who" the government helps.

    For millions of Americans, they truly believe that certain segments of the American populace are undeserving of government help, and they see the government helping those people as bad for this nation.
  16. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Skirting awfully close to that race and racists theme.
  17. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

    Everything is about race with you.
  18. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    The human race.